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Old 01-14-2022, 01:44 PM
NickyJ NickyJ is offline
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Default Neck relief and action question for Waterloo

Hey all,

I noticed my T-bar Waterloo had really high action back in early December. The low E at the 12th fret was well over .110".

Feeling adventurous, I did my research and sanded down the saddle myself. I got the action feeling great, .090" at the 12th for the low E, .070" for the high E. I was happy.

Fast forward to yesterday, and I noticed the action looking and feeling high again. It's not crazy high, but I measured it, and it does seem to be a little higher than when I last measured after the saddle work.

I'm in Oakland, CA and it has been a colder winter than usual. We have also had lots of rain lately, so humidity is probably up. Earlier this week I moved the guitar to a wall hanger near a window and am wondering if that could have been a mistake. My house is old, poorly insulated, the windows are single pane glass, and the temperature fluctuates a lot when we don't have the heater on, and we leave it off overnight.

When I look at the side profile of the neck, I'm wondering if I see a bit more relief than before. It seems like if it had a truss rod, this would be a good time to use it to reduce the relief, which would presumably lower the action in the upper registers of the fretboard. But with a T-bar, I obviously cannot do this. I can post photos later today.

I've never had guitar issues in over 20 years in the Bay Area, so I've never paid too much attention to humidity, but this is the nicest guitar I've owned so I want to make sure I'm not ruining it!

A little more info:

Action is great lower down. No buzzing anywhere, so I don't think anything terrible is happening.

I turned on my Dyson heater this morning and it told me humidity was like 90%. After being on for a few hours, it now says humidity is 63%, which is less alarming, but still above the optimal range I see on these forums.

I don't know how quickly guitars react to environmental changes, or what I can expect to see as it spends time in this room, but I'd love to get some more informed opinions on what is going on, if it will sort itself out eventually, and if not, how I might be able to both remediate the neck relief issue (if I'm not just making this up) and to maintain it going forward given my current conditions.

I try to minimize energy consumption, so I'm guessing the easiest thing to do is just keep it in its case with a humidifier, but I'd love to be able to keep it out and accessible without messing it up if possible.

Edit: Added photos, and I'm curious if I can safely take the saddle down at all anymore. It appears to have just over 1/16" above the bridge.

Thanks for any advice.
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