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Old 06-06-2019, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mbroady View Post
I do this in my head but I should make it more physical. This question is a bit off topic to the original question but are you using a click track when you track separately.
I use either a click track or a simple drum track. But that too was an acquired skill. The first time I sat in a studio to do some recording, the person who I was working with asked me to play to a click track. I'd never done it before and about a dozen attempts in the studio failed miserably and I gave up on it for a time. I think they failed in part because I didn't understand the advantages of playing to a click track so I wasn't all that motivated to get the hang of it.

The importance became clear when we began adding other instruments (bass, keyboards, etc). Adding anything else became quite a chore and took up so much more time because of all the editing we had to do to get things to line up. On top of that, on the songs that had a wider dynamic, I have a tendency to speed up play as I sing louder. I never noticed it when I performed but when hearing the song I recorded over and over again in the studio, the speed-ups became quite noticeable.

About halfway through that project I was determined to learn to play to a click and finally got comfortable with it. These days I won't record without it.

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Originally Posted by Mbroady View Post
I was panning hard left and right then slowly brining the tracks to the center just as a reference to see how much phasing was happening. It’s really not bad but it is there. I will check out the program you mentioned for sure. I’m running Sonar platinum and am almost 100% sure they have an included plug in do that. Tonight when the rugrat goes to bed I will explore more.
I never thought I was having any serious phasing problems but every time I use that plugin, stereo mic-ed guitar tracks sound noticeably better. I demoed it sometime last year and had it on my wishlist for months. I saw it on sale for $99 at some point and grabbed it. $99 for a very simple to use plugin that makes every stereo guitar track sound better? Yes please!

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Originally Posted by KevWind View Post
As far as a click and separate takes feeling unnatural at first, besides the "silent singing" Jim mentioned, ( which I realized I have always done also ) think of this somewhat related analogy. Back in old days when we learned to drive on a manual transmission. Trying to coordinate clutch, gas , braking , shift pattern, speed of of car , direction of car and other traffic etc. etc. was all very stilted and unnatural (Until after enough repetitions and miles it became natural ) this is very much the case of dubbed vocal recording
Yes, it's definitely a skill that one has to practice to master. I was uncomfortable and resistant to it at first but I came around when I realized how much more difficult everything else became when not playing to a click.
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