My Guild Orpheum 12 string has a 24.75 scale. This works very well for 12th fret at the body and produces a lot of volume with the bridge moved back. I find the short scale comfortable to play but of course a bit tricky for notes that require access to 14th fret but not impossible. I find this guitar much less chimey than the bigger ones but that may also be due to other build characteristics. I haven't tried a lower tuning on it yet as it is set up with low action.
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