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Freedbaby 09-19-2021 02:07 PM

Traveling with a guitar, United.
 
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Traveling for the first time with a guitar…taking my Rainsong which is in a hard case and it fits nice and snug. I called the airline, United in this case, assuming they’d have a definitive answer. My thought was I’d hate check it like a stroller. When I called they said it’s airport and size-of-plane dependent and that they were sorry they didn’t have an across the board answer unless I wanted to buy a seat for my guitar which I’m not doing.

I really don’t want to just toss it under the plane like a regular piece of luggage but I’m happy to gate check it.

Airport will be IAH in case that helps…and the travel is domestic.

Thank you in advance

bufflehead 09-19-2021 02:21 PM

Yes, gate checking is a better option if you can't take it into the cabin with you. I always pay the extra for preferred seating where I can board early, and then it's easy to find a place to stow the guitar on most planes. That said, I haven't flow United for years.

Alundy 09-19-2021 02:31 PM

Google and get rules. The government addresses it. If there is room when you board the Airline is required to allow you to store it on board if there is not they can require you to check it. Of course if you’re on a really small plane where there is a room for a guitar case you wouldn’t be expecting to carry it on anyway. When I was researching this a few years ago I heard that some airlines didn’t follow the law and it could be a good idea to bring the regulations with you so that there’s no question.
Also you have to Google united breaks guitars some good music there

The Bard Rocks 09-19-2021 03:43 PM

Google "United Breaks Guitars". a true story and a blast - I assume this is no longer the case with United.

frankmcr 09-19-2021 03:48 PM

Be polite and cheerful and friendly to all airline personnel when you come to check in.
Do NOT quote the rulebook at them. Be prepared to gate check - you may wish to read up on what that entails.

guitararmy 09-19-2021 04:37 PM

A Rainsong should be a great choice for a checked guitar--pretty indestructible. I recently shipped a Composite Acoustics guitar and had no doubt it would arrive safely.

I remember checking an acoustic guitar in a hardshell case for a flight from Idaho to Pittsburgh.
I used underwear to pad the headstock and neck. Seemed like a good idea to reduce the luggage in my carry on.
Wouldn't you know they inspected the guitar case as a random search...

dnf777 09-19-2021 06:07 PM

Gate-checked guitars get put in the luggage hold just like other checked bags. They are spared getting tossed on and off carts and trams, though.

Buying a seat is no guarantee, either. I once saw a young cellist who bought a seat have to plead with a FA, who was quoting safety regs about all carry ons going in bins or under seats. She eventually agreed to put it in her crew locker once the tears started.

min7b5 09-19-2021 06:20 PM

I would say next time fly Southwest, or if it’s not too late change airlines . I’ve flown on Southwest hundreds of times with my Santa Cruz 00 in its case and have never not gotten it both on-board and in the overhead. Every other pro I know it feels the same way about Southwest. I won’t fly any other airline with a guitar. Well, once in a while Alaska, they can be good too. But never the other big ones..

Photojeep 09-19-2021 07:43 PM

^^^^^
This!

I've flown Southwest dozens of times with a guitar and they don't even blink an eye when arrive with it on my back (TRIK case) and even will tell me which part of the plane has the most overhead room.

I'm flying Southwest next month with it and fully expect to have no problems once again.

Best and good luck,
PJ

phcorrigan 09-19-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Freedbaby (Post 6813297)
Traveling for the first time with a guitar…taking my Rainsong...

I saw Tom Paxton here in Portland, OR about two years ago, and he was playing a carbon fiber guitar. I believe it was a Rainsong. He said he travels with it because it's less likely to get damaged.

As others have said, pay for early boarding if you can, carry it to the plane, but be prepared to gate-check it. When you gate check you'll it back when you get off the plane.

folkmusikfan 09-19-2021 08:34 PM

One more vote for Southwest. I have traveled with my full size Martin OM and my Voyage Aire and never had to check a guitar.

Ron

emtsteve 09-20-2021 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alundy (Post 6813321)
Google and get rules. The government addresses it. If there is room when you board the Airline is required to allow you to store it on board if there is not they can require you to check it. Of course if you’re on a really small plane where there is a room for a guitar case you wouldn’t be expecting to carry it on anyway. When I was researching this a few years ago I heard that some airlines didn’t follow the law and it could be a good idea to bring the regulations with you so that there’s no question.
Also you have to Google united breaks guitars some good music there

Please don't go waving printed regulations at the flight crew. They have ultimate authority regarding your baggage and aren't "required" to do anything. Smile, be nice, and ask if there is room in a closet if your guitar doesn't fit in the overhead or if they are all full. Most of the time, they will safely store it for you. If they can't, you may have to gate check, which I've done many times with my GS Mini in it's soft case and it's been fine. Another point, my guitar case is my carry-on, not an additional piece.

Freedbaby 09-20-2021 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emtsteve (Post 6813676)
Please don't go waving printed regulations at the flight crew. They have ultimate authority regarding your baggage and aren't "required" to do anything. Smile, be nice, and ask if there is room in a closet if your guitar doesn't fit in the overhead or if they are all full. Most of the time, they will safely store it for you. If they can't, you may have to gate check, which I've done many times with my GS Mini in it's soft case and it's been fine. Another point, my guitar case is my carry-on, not an additional piece.

lol...I won't, that's not me. Im a southerner, born and raised in Texas where we get more flies with Honey than a flyswatter!

Thanks for all the replies, however I can't change airlines because I won't get to where I need to go. I'll just play it by ear. Not that I want something to happen to the guitar, but it's not sentimental and it's totally replaceable so if something happens, the airlines will just replace it. They did tell me on the phone they have insurance for all luggage.

Street Glider 09-20-2021 10:34 AM

Back in the day, when I was a young sailor traveling home on leave, I never thought twice about checking my guitar with my regular luggage. I never had a problem doing that...

619TF 09-20-2021 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emtsteve (Post 6813676)
Please don't go waving printed regulations at the flight crew. They have ultimate authority regarding your baggage and aren't "required" to do anything. Smile, be nice, and ask if there is room in a closet if your guitar doesn't fit in the overhead or if they are all full. Most of the time, they will safely store it for you. If they can't, you may have to gate check, which I've done many times with my GS Mini in it's soft case and it's been fine. Another point, my guitar case is my carry-on, not an additional piece.

Generally it's not the flight crew who will give you a problem but rather the gate attendant. They always want to check my guitar. Some say the magic words "gate check" but some really want me to have it run with all the regular bags (ummm...no). "Waiving the regulations around" will possibly work with the gate attendant and, if not, with their Supervisor. The option to bring on a guitar is not up to the gate personnel, it's Federal Law. Yes, always be nice to the flight crew and yes, they'll often accommodate you if there's room in the crew closet.

The main thing is to stick to your guns (the government gave you this law for you to use) and yes, be polite but firm. Here's a recent example of airline people doing the wrong thing (contains link to the United Breaks Guitars" video - so a 2 for 1 here): https://liveandletsfly.com/flight-at...-violin-rules/


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