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Rosewood99 10-18-2021 12:14 PM

How can this guitar stay in tune?
 
My Martin OMC-15 seems to never go out of tune. My humidity went from 60% to 40% this weekend and I didn’t have to make any tuning adjustments? How is that possible? My other guitars seem to go out of tune with just a 5% difference.

AcousticDreams 10-18-2021 12:25 PM

I will be looking forward to the replies on this question. A previous thread last week claimed that Mahogany top guitars crack less.
My spruce topped guitars most certainly go to the plus or negative side of tuning, with small humidity changes.

Goat Mick 10-18-2021 12:35 PM

Just to even out the spectrum on these things, my 000-15 usually needs the tuning tweaked if it's been a few days.

mr. beaumont 10-18-2021 12:36 PM

Those open gear tuners are really good.

If I have a temperature flux in the house though, I've never met a guitar that doesn't go a little out of tune. I'd say you got lucky.

Rosewood99 10-18-2021 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont (Post 6835314)
Those open gear tuners are really good.

If I have a temperature flux in the house though, I've never met a guitar that doesn't go a little out of tune. I'd say you got lucky.

I think so. It kind of shocked me.

CarlE 10-18-2021 12:51 PM

Sometimes after a change in humidity or temperature I find that the entire guitar has drifted sharp or flat so that it is still in tune with itself. If I check with a tuner though, all the strings are off, but apparently by the same amount. Depending on what I am doing, I just leave well enough alone and hope the it goes back to where it was when the weather changes again!

Kittoon 10-18-2021 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosewood99 (Post 6835292)
My Martin OMC-15 seems to never go out of tune. My humidity went from 60% to 40% this weekend and I didn’t have to make any tuning adjustments? How is that possible? My other guitars seem to go out of tune with just a 5% difference.

Rosewood,
Curious. What method (electronic tuner, ear or tuning-fork) are you using to make the call?

Rosewood99 10-18-2021 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kittoon (Post 6835337)
Rosewood,
Curious. What method (electronic tuner, ear or tuning-fork) are you using to make the call?

Same one I’ve been using for years. D’Addario tuner. Plus, it just sounds In tune as well.

Kittoon 10-18-2021 01:17 PM

Huh. How about that!
-I swear, even in my reasonably controlled upstairs music room, if someone gets a drink of water in the kitchen or turns on a light or if someone boils an egg, the added temp/humidity forces me to slightly tune!

StringMeUp 10-18-2021 01:26 PM

I am curious how long it was at 60% and 40%.

Rosewood99 10-18-2021 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StringMeUp (Post 6835363)
I am curious how long it was at 60% and 40%.

60% for two weeks and between 40 and 45% in the last two days. This has been the second day and that’s when I picked up the guitar to play. I even checked my hydrometer to make sure it was correct. Still amazes me. Every one of my other guitars needed to be retuned.

AcousticDreams 10-18-2021 02:10 PM

Rosewood99, this guitar top is Mahogany correct?

Rosewood99 10-18-2021 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Knives&Guitars (Post 6835393)
Rosewood99, this guitar top is Mahogany correct?

That is correct.

Brucebubs 10-18-2021 03:05 PM

The letter 'C' in OMC-15 stands for ... concrete.

dspoel 10-18-2021 03:14 PM

I hardly ever have to tune my Martin CEO-7. I live in Sweden with dry winters. Maybe the secret is not to change strings every year 🤪

Rosewood99 10-18-2021 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dspoel (Post 6835433)
I hardly ever have to tune my Martin CEO-7. I live in Sweden with dry winters. Maybe the secret is not to change strings every year 🤪

But does the humidity change drastically?

JayBee1404 10-18-2021 04:03 PM

I tune my guitars every time I pick them up, and also several times during a playing session. The guitar that never goes out of tune hasn’t been invented.

StringMeUp 10-18-2021 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosewood99 (Post 6835374)
60% for two weeks and between 40 and 45% in the last two days. This has been the second day and that’s when I picked up the guitar to play. I even checked my hydrometer to make sure it was correct. Still amazes me. Every one of my other guitars needed to be retuned.

That is really something. I would expect it to need to be retuned by now. ;)

ssstewart 10-18-2021 04:09 PM

i feel it may not be specific to wood/model/make or otherwise... just that individual guitar imo.. i only have 10 gits atm, sold one. but for some reason my low end Fender CD-60 spruce/hog will hold tuning for weeks literally, usually run martin retros or 2.0 long lifes on it (same as 3 other gits have on them) with all my other gits (12 string being the worst of course) and then nylon guitars next, followed by electrics and lastly the acoustics..but as i say, that old cheap fender cd-60 that ive had for years holds a tuning for a ridiculous amount of time, be it standard, c, d, etc dont matter.

TBman 10-18-2021 06:55 PM

I'll have to leave out a few guitars, including my all hog Guild and do a test. I wonder if I have to align the guitars with the axis of the moon or Jupiter....... :D

Weird stuff Rosewood99 :eek: :eek:

EZYPIKINS 10-19-2021 06:00 AM

Just curious:

What is telling you it's in tune?

Alex&r 10-19-2021 06:30 AM

I have a new-ish guitar, remarkably stable in terms of tuning. I've wondered whether the neck/heel design - it uses some kind of embedded aluminium alloy rod/joint - might be contributing?
Last weekend the guitar travelled by train 200 miles with two wet cycle rides either side. It's come into a centrally-heated home and when I come to tune it.... no need🤯

Rosewood99 10-19-2021 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZYPIKINS (Post 6835758)
Just curious:

What is telling you it's in tune?

A D’Addario tuner.


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