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Don W 02-07-2019 05:40 AM

Mistakes during performance
 
I have this problem....when I perform or record. I have, over the years, playing fingerstyle, developed this bad habit of going back and fixing a mistake instead of just playing through it. Its like I get lost when I make a mistake and don't know how to pick up the thread again until I fix the mistake. Anyone struggling with this?...Any tips?

GTRGUY005 02-07-2019 05:51 AM

Try to play through if you're in front of an audience. In most cases they won't notice the mistake anyway.

Mooh 02-07-2019 05:53 AM

When you walk down the street and trip over a crack in the sidewalk, do you go back and take that footstep again? If you do, it only accents your error. Play to the beat (rather than the note) when you falter and you won't be as tempted to make repairs as you go.

Silly Moustache 02-07-2019 06:29 AM

This is what I learnt long ago and tell my students , when I get them.

1. We all make mistakes.

2. The majority of your audience won't notice a mistake (unless you stop and point it out to them)

3. Those that do spot an errors with think "oh did he ...? hmm, beer!" and they have forgotten.

4. Poker face - don't show your error in your expression, unless something is radically wrong - string breaks, capo springs off, trousers fall down etc.. in which case entertain them with a joke.

5. when you play in front of an audience , you are there to entertain them, not to compete in a competition - you don't have to be the fastest, the loudest, the anything but a good )i.e. it isn't a sport) just be a sincere entertainer/storyteller, and they will like you.

Brent Hahn 02-07-2019 06:31 AM

Playing out, I don't think anyone notices when I muff a chord, really. What was astonishing, though, was the first time I messed up the words of an original and I heard a lady in front singing along, but correctly.

For amazement, that ranks up there with the first time I saw my young child do something that was smarter than the dog could do.

dkstott 02-07-2019 06:37 AM

I attend quite a few smaller venue shows with mostly solo guitarists performing.

Audio wise, I'm not usually aware of mistakes, but I know instantly when a performer knows they made a mistake by their facial expressions.

difalkner 02-07-2019 06:47 AM

In our Praise Band when one of us makes a mistake we just look at the drummer. :D

David

DenverSteve 02-07-2019 07:02 AM

Let it go and let if flow. Play through it and keep going. For myself mistakes occur when I get distracted by paying attention to someone in the audience or letting my head wander when playing a song I've done a thousand times or rushing. Either way, relax, keep your head in what you're doing and relax. Then relax, breathe and, oh yeah, relax.

rmp 02-07-2019 07:11 AM

I'd have to say that the only time you should stop and fix, is if you're trying to get the muscle memory right for a complex passage or chord change.

If it's a performance play on, stay on beat, (try to not GRIMMACE or make a face like you just smelled a ripe fart..)

Stay cool pretend like nothing happened no one will know unless it's a major clam, and even then, maybe not. Depends on the setting, a Concert, or solo performance like recital or what ever just forget about it, the moment is gone.. In a noisy bar, or coffee house,, no one's gonna know what happened. And, you're the only one that will care.

Recording, depends on what you use. many things are very easy to do punch ins to fix mistakes. (Pro Tools for example..)

Wooly 02-07-2019 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Don W (Post 5972447)
I make a mistake and don't know how to pick up the thread again until I fix the mistake.

I have the same problem and would like to know also. It's one thing to make a mistake and be able to push through it but when your mistake throws you off and you get all messed up, it's hard to hide that blunder. To the point where sometimes you need to start the phrase or passage over again.

Nymuso 02-07-2019 07:33 AM

Unless you are horrendously out of tune, there are no mistakes during performance. You just keep on going. Unless . . . the mistake wasn't too bad. Then you intentionally repeat it if it comes around again in the song.

reeve21 02-07-2019 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Wooly (Post 5972518)
I have the same problem and would like to know also. It's one thing to make a mistake and be able to push through it but when your mistake throws you off and you get all messed up, it's hard to hide that blunder. To the point where sometimes you need to start the phrase or passage over again.

I think it is a skill that has to be practiced. I feel like I "need" to start over because I'm disgusted with the execution, but that is not really the case. I'm practicing forcing myself to keep the beat going in my head, and picking it up at the beginning of the next measure or phrase as though nothing went wrong. Then the next time through I'll slow it down to a tempo I can play comfortably, and gradually ramp it back up. Also working on that particular passage at a slow tempo.

mr. beaumont 02-07-2019 07:39 AM

You say you're playing fingerstyle pieces...do you know the tunes as melody and chords as well, or just as an arrangement?

RedJoker 02-07-2019 07:45 AM

Some background info, I've been performing as a professional juggler for about 25 years. When you make mistakes juggling, it's REAALLYY obvious. As such, we've developed 'drop lines', things we say or do when we drop that ends up enhancing the show.

I'm now transitioning into solo musical performing. At my one and only gig so far, my wife's most constructive comment was that this was not a juggling show and I needed to handle my mistakes better. Instinctively, I was drawing on my 'drop line' tendencies when I should have just breezed through the errors. She knows all of the songs I play and said even she would not have noticed 75% of my mistakes if I hadn't done something to point them out.

So back to the OP, I mostly play fingerstyle and sing. For guitar mistakes, it's easy for me to fall into a simple pattern that somewhat fits the song. No one notices that and I'm getting better at handling it. My biggest issue is screwing up lyrics. I'm still working on how to handle that. I go to a couple open mics a month specifically to get more time in front of an audience.

rick-slo 02-07-2019 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don W (Post 5972447)
I have this problem....when I perform or record. I have, over the years, playing fingerstyle, developed this bad habit of going back and fixing a mistake instead of just playing through it. Its like I get lost when I make a mistake and don't know how to pick up the thread again until I fix the mistake. Anyone struggling with this?...Any tips?

What exactly are the type of mistakes you tend to go back and play over?


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