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AntonioG 07-14-2021 07:48 AM

Acoustic Guitar for live?
 
Hello everyone!

Soon I will start playing live and therefore I would like to buy an acoustic guitar with good electronics. :)

Among the various models I have seen, the Yamaha A3R seems very interesting to me (currently I play a Yamaha L6 and I have always enjoyed it). Another guitar they recommended to me is the Cort Gold A6 but I'm afraid the internal mic might give feedback problems.

What can you tell me about these two guitars?
Could you recommend other ones always on the same price range? :D

cmac 07-14-2021 07:59 AM

If I needed a guitar specifically for playing live I'd get a Takamine.

Unless you are performing solo recitals, nobody is going to care much what the guitar sounds like amplified. Here in AGF everyone wants 'my guitar, but louder'. Out there in the real world nobody will be listening to the guitar, it'll just be part of the mix.

Takamine guitars are used by a lot of performers, all of whom can afford much more expensive kit, because they have good electronics and are well built for stage use.

musicman1951 07-14-2021 08:06 AM

I would get a K&K installed in the L6 and purchase a good preamp.

warfrat73 07-14-2021 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musicman1951 (Post 6763935)
I would get a K&K installed in the L6 and purchase a good preamp.

This... since you like your current guitar, no need to go out and buy a new one.

baw3 07-14-2021 08:22 AM

Totally agree with the 2 posts above mine. But, if thats not what you want to do, a Yamaha a3R is an Ex. choice.

geewhiz 07-14-2021 08:24 AM

It depends on what "live" means. If you’re playing with a band with bass and drums, you may have feedback problems with something like a K&K, and something like a garden variety UST with a Tonedexter or Baggs Voiceprint would be a better choice.

EZYPIKINS 07-14-2021 08:26 AM

Yes, My Guitar.

Have grown tired of the crappy sound of the piezo under saddle transducer.

I want to amplify the sound of My guitar. Without getting feedback.

It is true. Most people could care less.

And with todays generation. Thinking the clicks and pops coming from a computer is music.

You are the only one who cares. so please yourself.

Good Luck

tadol 07-14-2021 02:29 PM

The UltraTonic is a great pickup for this - I primarily play my Santa Cruz F (maple/sitka) going straight into my amp or even right into the mixer, with a lead guitarist playing his Tele thru a Fender, electric bass going into a 2 cabinet set-up, drummer, and another vocalist - since upgrading my K&K to the UltraTonic, I've had zero issues with feedback, and my signal sounds great - I even have a Santa Cruz baritone, with an Ultrasonic that I can play with the band with no feedback and great tone. I can run it thru the Tonedexter if I want, but when you have a Tele and bass cranked up, and drummer as well, lets just say the finer nuances of my fine acoustics get lost in the mix most of the time anyway - so I play them just because I like the way they feel, play, and sound, even if its lost on everyone else. But they used to notice pretty quickly if the feedback started -

Rudy4 07-14-2021 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntonioG (Post 6763923)
Hello everyone!

Soon I will start playing live and therefore I would like to buy an acoustic guitar with good electronics. :)

Among the various models I have seen, the Yamaha A3R seems very interesting to me (currently I play a Yamaha L6 and I have always enjoyed it). Another guitar they recommended to me is the Cort Gold A6 but I'm afraid the internal mic might give feedback problems.

What can you tell me about these two guitars?
Could you recommend other ones always on the same price range? :D

You might consider getting a K&K Pure Mini installed in whatever guitar you choose. I use a K&K directly into an amp or recorder without a preamp and I'm perfectly satisfied with the results.


Oldguy64 07-14-2021 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmac (Post 6763929)
If I needed a guitar specifically for playing live I'd get a Takamine.

Unless you are performing solo recitals, nobody is going to care much what the guitar sounds like amplified. Here in AGF everyone wants 'my guitar, but louder'. Out there in the real world nobody will be listening to the guitar, it'll just be part of the mix.

Takamine guitars are used by a lot of performers, all of whom can afford much more expensive kit, because they have good electronics and are well built for stage use.

Pretty much this.
I love my Alvarez guitars,
But for plugging in, the Takamine P3DC is no slouch.
The preamp (CT4BII) and if you don’t like it, all the Pro series and other MIJ guitars have interchangeable preamps.

Now if you’re doing small venues with audiences under 400 or so, your current guitar with a K&K thru one of the better pedals, such as a Venue, ParaAcoustic, or the like will serve you well.

YamahaGuy 07-14-2021 09:04 PM

For the money, go for the A3R. It's a beast of a guitar unplugged. Plugged in, it has one of the best preamps out there with the SRT2 modeling. I've eyeballed the Cort. The A3R being a dreadnaught will have a terrific full sound. The neck is the big thing to consider though. If you like the wider neck on your LL6, you may not like the much narrower and slimmer neck on the A3R.

YamahaGuy 07-14-2021 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musicman1951 (Post 6763935)
I would get a K&K installed in the L6 and purchase a good preamp.

The LL6 already has a pickup in it.

YamahaGuy 07-14-2021 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldguy64 (Post 6764385)
Pretty much this.
I love my Alvarez guitars,
But for plugging in, the Takamine P3DC is no slouch.
The preamp (CT4BII) and if you don’t like it, all the Pro series and other MIJ guitars have interchangeable preamps.

Now if you’re doing small venues with audiences under 400 or so, your current guitar with a K&K thru one of the better pedals, such as a Venue, ParaAcoustic, or the like will serve you well.

The P3DC is like $700 more than the price range of the Cort and/or the Yamaha.

YamahaGuy 07-14-2021 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tadol (Post 6764229)
The UltraTonic is a great pickup for this - I primarily play my Santa Cruz F (maple/sitka) going straight into my amp or even right into the mixer, with a lead guitarist playing his Tele thru a Fender, electric bass going into a 2 cabinet set-up, drummer, and another vocalist - since upgrading my K&K to the UltraTonic, I've had zero issues with feedback, and my signal sounds great - I even have a Santa Cruz baritone, with an Ultrasonic that I can play with the band with no feedback and great tone. I can run it thru the Tonedexter if I want, but when you have a Tele and bass cranked up, and drummer as well, lets just say the finer nuances of my fine acoustics get lost in the mix most of the time anyway - so I play them just because I like the way they feel, play, and sound, even if its lost on everyone else. But they used to notice pretty quickly if the feedback started -

If the OP is looking at $7-900 guitars, a $400 pickup doesn't make much sense.

Oldguy64 07-15-2021 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YamahaGuy (Post 6764423)
The P3DC is like $700 more than the price range of the Cort and/or the Yamaha.


Well I paid $900 for mine brand new.
The A3R I saw online was $969.
I still believe that if you already have a bond with the guitar you have…you would be happiest with it.
If the pickup is any kind of good, you can run it thru one of the many good tone shaping preamps and be good.

In the under $1000 category if you feel you must add a guitar, look at the Guild Westerly, the Takamine GJ72CE (if you are comfortable with a jumbo) and any number of Alvarez Masterworks guitars.


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