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Cecil6243 01-24-2021 12:59 PM

Would I be counting this bar out correctly?
 
Where I added the count for 4/4 time?

This is a segment of two bars of a practice piece that alternates between strumming and melody lines.

I want to keep the strumming hand in an up and down motion, even where there are no notes or chords, which sadly is fairly new to me as I didn't originally learn it that way. I learned almost all fingerpicking. But I am correcting that!

https://i.imgur.com/fRtxcKLm.png

merlin666 01-24-2021 01:11 PM

Looks like the way I learned to count it.

NormanKliman 01-24-2021 01:13 PM

Look right to me. In 4/4: a stemmed hollow note head is 2 beats (1-and-2-and), a stemmed and dotted solid note head is 1.5 beats (3-and-4) and a stemmed solid note head with a flag is 0.5 beats (-and).

Andyrondack 01-24-2021 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cecil6243 (Post 6613743)
Where I added the count for 4/4 time?

This is a segment of two bars of a practice piece that alternates between strumming and melody lines.

I want to keep the strumming hand in an up and down motion, even where there are no notes or chords, which sadly is fairly new to me as I didn't originally learn it that way. I learned almost all fingerpicking. But I am correcting that!

https://i.imgur.com/fRtxcKLm.png

I would count the half note as 1 & 2 & ...the dotted 1/4 note 3& 4...the 8th note just &,
but it has been an awfull long time since I had a teacher looking over my shoulder saying no count it like this, my thinking is the way you have counted gives the impression that the 4th beat is silent like a rest but it's not it's a continuation of the note played on the 3rd beat.

rule18 01-24-2021 02:09 PM

You are correct.

Andyrondack 01-24-2021 02:30 PM

The way I work these out is to imagine a metronome set to click every 8th note in a 4 beat bar, the half note gets 4 clicks, the dotted 1/4 note 3 clicks, the final 8th note 1 click = 8 clicks and all clicks need to be counted.

Cecil6243 01-24-2021 10:18 PM

Thank you for your comments!

Nimiety 01-24-2021 10:43 PM

I agree with counting it as:


1&2&3&4&

Cecil6243 01-25-2021 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimiety (Post 6614358)
I agree with counting it as:


1&2&3&4&

I think you are right especially since the "&" tells me that is when my hand comes up with a ghost strum.

rule18 01-26-2021 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cecil6243 (Post 6614637)
I think you are right especially since the "&" tells me that is when my hand comes up with a ghost strum.

This is the exact right way to read that measure, musically it's very clear.

Fatfinger McGee 01-26-2021 10:17 PM

Always count by the smallest increment you'll play or sing, which is usually an 8th note, occasionally a 16th note if really fast and syncopated. Clapping out the beat is usually easier than strumming it, if you need to get the groove first.

Cecil6243 01-27-2021 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatfinger McGee (Post 6616400)
Always count by the smallest increment you'll play or sing, which is usually an 8th note, occasionally a 16th note if really fast and syncopated. Clapping out the beat is usually easier than strumming it, if you need to get the groove first.


Thanks! Great tips although strumming muted strings works well for me for getting the groove.

Fatfinger McGee 01-27-2021 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cecil6243 (Post 6617397)
Thanks! Great tips although strumming muted strings works well for me for getting the groove.


Good deal. Muted strums are good for grooving period.

Your next mission, should you choose to accept it: The Bo Diddley beat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo_Diddley_beat


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