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Joseph Hanna 11-03-2019 02:16 PM

Zoom H4n Pro
 
I borrowed a friends Zoom H4n Pro this weekend. I dunno how old the release of this device is but this particularly unit was only a couple of weeks old. What a fabulous sounding little device. Easy to setup, easy to use. It's quiet and works flawlessly as an interface and I was a able to find a sweet spot very quickly. I did a handful of down and dirty recordings and from a tone and sound quality perspective I could easily use all of thise takes. Iím just really impressed with this thing. I headed out to pick one up for myself :)

rick-slo 11-07-2019 09:52 AM

Post one of those recording.

Joseph Hanna 11-07-2019 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rick-slo (Post 6205357)
Post one of those recording.

Yes sir :) I'll post something for you this weekend!

Doug Young 11-07-2019 11:56 AM

I think the H4n Pro came out about the same time as the H5 and H6, when they basically updated their line. About 5 years ago. Agreed, great recorders, they set a pretty high bar to beat, all at a budget price.

Joseph Hanna 11-07-2019 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Young (Post 6205474)
I think the H4n Pro came out about the same time as the H5 and H6, when they basically updated their line. About 5 years ago. Agreed, great recorders, they set a pretty high bar to beat, all at a budget price.

I think, at least for me and given my relentless work schedule, the concept of easy set-up, ease of finding a usable tone, comfort and ease in finding a chair and place in the house that sounds decent, is a big creative incentive.

I have some really great mics Iíve accumulated over the years but itís often defeating when the time and effort it takes to properly set them up ultimately diminishes the desire to create.

I have two basic recording scenarios. 1) This cue has to be recorded and mixed in an hour and 2) Iíve got an hour or two to capture a personal guitar idea. That said Iíve never been a guy that records stuff ďdown and dirtyĒ as a sketch to then return later for a proper pass. Some of my inspiration comes from a great sounds inside the headphones. If Iím really comfortable in my headphones I tend to play with more economy and more attention to touch. As it is the Zoom lets me pull up a mic stand, plug in headphones and get comfortable quickly. For me whatever may or may not be lost in more expensive setups is mitigated by getting into a really comfortable zone almost immediately.

Joseph Hanna 11-12-2019 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rick-slo (Post 6205357)
Post one of those recording.

OK here ya go. Two passes T to B warts and all. Straight out of the zoom. No volume changes, no compression, no EQ. Down and dirty as it gets. I did add a Lexicon to the lead track just to try to smooth out my inconsistencies in touch. Also a Massey 2007 to bring the output level up a touch for publishing.

https://soundcloud.com/joseph-hanna/zoom

rick-slo 11-12-2019 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Hanna (Post 6209470)
OK here ya go. Two passes T to B warts and all. Straight out of the zoom. No volume changes, no compression, no EQ. Down and dirty as it gets. I did add a Lexicon to the lead track just to try to smooth out my inconsistencies in touch. Also a Massey 2007 to bring the output level up a touch for publishing.

https://soundcloud.com/joseph-hanna/zoom

Joseph, thanks for that. It does sound quite good, clean and detailed. I assume you load the raw Zoom recordings into the DAW you already have been using and go from there.

Joseph Hanna 11-12-2019 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rick-slo (Post 6209503)
Joseph, thanks for that. It does sound quite good, clean and detailed. I assume you load the raw Zoom recordings into the DAW you already have been using and go from there.

Yes. I use either Pro Tools or Studio One. Most of the time, at least at home, I use Studio One because I trust itís drag and drop file transfer management more than I do Pro Tools. That makes it easy to drag files directly from the SC card. This entire recording took maybe 30 minutes total. Pretty easy setup.

justonwo 11-12-2019 04:11 PM

I have an old Zoom H4n from years ago and I can never for the life of me get the recording to sound ďright.Ē Is the pro a significant upgrade from the earlier generation?

Doug Young 11-12-2019 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by justonwo (Post 6209953)
I have an old Zoom H4n from years ago and I can never for the life of me get the recording to sound ďright.Ē Is the pro a significant upgrade from the earlier generation?

My understanding is that the h4n pro has the same or similar mics and electronics as the h5 and h6, which all came out around the same time, and they do seem to be a significant upgrade to the older h4n. Lower noise if nothing else. But the h4n is quite usable, i used it for you tube videos untl i got the h6, so many of my older videos are likely the h4n, tho i always use external mics.

Ps. Nice sound joseph. I can only listen in earbuds on an ipad at the moment, but it sounds good to me!

Joseph Hanna 11-12-2019 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Young (Post 6210069)
My understanding is that the h4n pro has the same or similar mics and electronics as the h5 and h6, which all came out around the same time, and they do seem to be a significant upgrade to the older h4n. Lower noise if nothing else. But the h4n is quite usable, i used it for you tube videos untl i got the h6, so many of my older videos are likely the h4n, tho i always use external mics.

Ps. Nice sound joseph. I can only listen in earbuds on an ipad at the moment, but it sounds good to me!

Thatís my understanding having looked into this a bit. Better/cleaner mic preís. I also donít think (although I donít have one to actually compare) that thereíd be a significant change in sonic profile from the original H4n.

Thanks so much Doug. I really wasnít intending to show off the absolute sonic capabilities of the Zoom as more to demonstrate itís genuine ease of use while still producing a pretty quality result. That and Iím still finding the best mic position for the guitar Iím using. My temporary home (during my big move) is 25 feet from the 101. Finding a quiet spot, and a spot thatís not actually vibrating from the trucks going by is tough right now. The Zoom affords me the ability to easily try different spots in an attempt to escape the pounding sounds of the 101. Iíd think even more powerful in a home thatís not so audio challenged.

Still, for this experiment I merely set up a mini mic stand on the coffee table, did two quick tracks, put some Lexicon on the second take and posted. Iíve got 25 minutes into this start to finish. That kinda alters my mind set in being productive in home recording.

keith.rogers 11-12-2019 09:13 PM

Wow. Lovely.

I'm a longtime Zoom fan, early adopter of the Zoom H2, H6, and now using an F8 and F8n.

(You don't come from the Hannah's around Lancaster PA by any chance - there seem to be a lot that have gravitated toward the guitar!)

justonwo 11-13-2019 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Young (Post 6210069)
My understanding is that the h4n pro has the same or similar mics and electronics as the h5 and h6, which all came out around the same time, and they do seem to be a significant upgrade to the older h4n. Lower noise if nothing else. But the h4n is quite usable, i used it for you tube videos untl i got the h6, so many of my older videos are likely the h4n, tho i always use external mics.

Ps. Nice sound joseph. I can only listen in earbuds on an ipad at the moment, but it sounds good to me!

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Originally Posted by Joseph Hanna (Post 6210125)
That’s my understanding having looked into this a bit. Better/cleaner mic pre’s. I also don’t think (although I don’t have one to actually compare) that there’d be a significant change in sonic profile from the original H4n.

Thanks so much Doug. I really wasn’t intending to show off the absolute sonic capabilities of the Zoom as more to demonstrate it’s genuine ease of use while still producing a pretty quality result. That and I’m still finding the best mic position for the guitar I’m using. My temporary home (during my big move) is 25 feet from the 101. Finding a quiet spot, and a spot that’s not actually vibrating from the trucks going by is tough right now. The Zoom affords me the ability to easily try different spots in an attempt to escape the pounding sounds of the 101. I’d think even more powerful in a home that’s not so audio challenged.

Still, for this experiment I merely set up a mini mic stand on the coffee table, did two quick tracks, put some Lexicon on the second take and posted. I’ve got 25 minutes into this start to finish. That kinda alters my mind set in being productive in home recording.

Thanks for the information, all.

Great playing and recording. Joseph, where are you positioning the Zoom when you record?

Joseph Hanna 11-13-2019 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by keith.rogers (Post 6210165)
Wow. Lovely.

I'm a longtime Zoom fan, early adopter of the Zoom H2, H6, and now using an F8 and F8n.

(You don't come from the Hannah's around Lancaster PA by any chance - there seem to be a lot that have gravitated toward the guitar!)

Naw :) Donít know anyone from the Lancaster area. Truth be told Joseph Hanna is a pen name I used for my BMI account about a zillion years ago. Just kept it around as an internet id. Real last name is Mackie.

Joseph Hanna 11-13-2019 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by justonwo (Post 6210694)
Thanks for the information, all.

Great playing and recording. Joseph, where are you positioning the Zoom when you record?


Thank you :) Honestly I donít think Iíve found the sweet spot just yet and of course it depends entirely where Iím sitting in the room and what guitar Iím playing. But...I was pretty close to the fairly traditional ďneck joins the bodyĒ spot. Maybe three inches back. I find it pretty easy to re-adjust in the headphones though with fairly accurate results. Iíll keep at it (as is my habit) and post some stuff as I get a better grip on the Zoom.


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