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Rudy4 11-06-2017 08:39 AM

Binaural recording opinions?
 
Binaural recording has been discussed before, but some of the newer followers of the recording section of the forum might be interested in opinions of the process.

I personally like it, but I'm not sold on the "distance" factor. Close micing conventionally seems to really benefit the sound, particularly vocals. Yea or ney?

https://youtu.be/lUNNIAaSDys

KevWind 11-06-2017 08:58 AM

For recording it does seem to give more of a lateral spread than say a single LCD
The distance issue could be addressed with either automated compression or the typical stage technique of whomever is doing the "feature" stepping a bit more forward and the others stepping back
For live performance I'm not sure a mannequin head at center stage would contribute to the performance visual (unless maybe the name of group was Dummy and the Holler Bottom Boys ):D

rick-slo 11-06-2017 09:38 AM

I see the dummy, but where were the mikes? Is the video the actual recording session or a simulation. Anyway, it sounded good to me.

Bob Womack 11-06-2017 10:09 AM

A few points:
1. To the question, "Where are the mics?" They are in the ear locations.
2. May I draw your attention to the location? They' gobo'd up the space to dry it up pretty far.
3. For better or worse, binaural does a decent job of reproducing the sound stage. As a professional mixer I find the off-center placement of the lead vocal HIGHLY uncomfortable.
4. Oh, and by the way, the sound of the vocal recording is strident and has a "rip" to it that tired my ears really quickly.

Bob

rick-slo 11-06-2017 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Womack (Post 5528732)
A few points:
1. To the question, "Where are the mics?" They are in the ear locations.

I know the technique. I am talking about this particular video.

http://dcoombsguitar.com/Guitar%20Mu...er/AGF2017.jpg

Rudy4 11-06-2017 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick-slo (Post 5528711)
I see the dummy, but where were the mikes? Is the video the actual recording session or a simulation. Anyway, it sounded good to me.

Perhaps the next video "The Making Of..." might help to clear things up:

https://youtu.be/gNwWroVONhI

rick-slo 11-06-2017 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy4 (Post 5528908)
Perhaps the next video "The Making Of..." might help to clear things up:

https://youtu.be/gNwWroVONhI

Thanks for the link. So if there are tiny microphones within the dummy's ears (so small you can't even see them)
it would have been nice if had they told us what those mikes were.

Rudy4 11-06-2017 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick-slo (Post 5528926)
Thanks for the link. So if there are tiny microphones within the dummy's ears (so small you can't even see them)
it would have been nice if had they told us what those mikes were.

If you're unfamiliar with the technique and/or equipment there's a really nice writeup on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_recording

From the Wikipedia article it's apparant that the recording is being made with the "Bruel & Kjaer" head / torso simulator. I'm not sure what mics they are using, but some of the hardware from other manufacturers are using Neumann elements.

Here's Neumann's KU-100 Binaural head with built-in condenser elements if anyone wants to pick one up and experiment...

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ummy_Head.html

KevWind 11-07-2017 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy4 (Post 5529195)
If you're unfamiliar with the technique and/or equipment there's a really nice writeup on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_recording

From the Wikipedia article it's apparant that the recording is being made with the "Bruel & Kjaer" head / torso simulator. I'm not sure what mics they are using, but some of the hardware from other manufacturers are using Neumann elements.

Here's Neumann's KU-100 Binaural head with built-in condenser elements if anyone wants to pick one up and experiment...

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ummy_Head.html

Only $8k I'll have to see what is in my tip jar ;)


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