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Dminor - The Saddest of All Keys.

Dminor - it's been said that a song in Dminor can make people weep instantly. Some would even say that it is the saddest of all keys. Take, for instance, this video of one of our own AGF members :D playing the piano:

Dminor: Saddest of all Keys

Now, it does have a certain sadness to it. However, is it really that sad?

It has been said that before "tempered tuning," each key had its own "atmosphere," so to speak. Instruments had to be tuned specifically for a certain key. Tempered tuning, in theory, was supposed to make intervals uniform and to place all keys in the same "atmosphere." (This drives us all nuts sometimes, as the guitar was developed before tempered tuning.)

So, folks, is Dminor *really* the saddest of all keys? Is there one that could be sadder? What key is the happiest of all keys?

Opes, me drooges? :)

:cry: :cry: (weeping instantly) :cry: :cry:

C Major is clearly the happiest key...no sharps or flats to worry about. :D

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Originally Posted by HereIGoAgain (Post 1033255)

...Instruments had to be tuned specifically for a certain key. Tempered tuning, in theory, was supposed to make intervals uniform and to place all keys in the same "atmosphere." (This drives us all nuts sometimes, as the guitar was developed before tempered tuning.)

Hi HIGA...
Guitars are built with tempered scale now - just like pianos.

I'm not sure one could support a case for D minor being the saddest key tempered or not.

I have heard that F is "The Key of Love"
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When my 12 string is out of tune whatever key I play in is pretty sad...;)

Hmm, I don't know. Southern Man by Neil Young starts out with a Dminor chord.

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Originally Posted by Ju1ia (Post 1033260)

C Major is clearly the happiest key...no sharps or flats to worry about. :D

And no black notes. :D (I play piano).

Funny thing about keys on the piano. I can only play reasonably well (or not so well) in a few keys.

The ones I find easy to play in:

C
Eb
G
F

Others are much more difficult for me.

I play best in G-demolished, though. :D

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Originally Posted by SongwriterFan (Post 1033711)

And no black notes. :D (I play piano).

Funny thing about keys on the piano. I can only play reasonably well (or not so well) in a few keys.
The ones I find easy to play in:
C
Eb
G
F

Others are much more difficult for me.
I play best in G-demolished, though. :D

Happiest key may be F# (all black keys): a nice happy 6th chord :)

I sound pretty sad in the key of B major (thank goodness for the handy transpose feature on my ol' Roland XP80--I just play along in E :up: )
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According to a thread from Berklee School of Musichttp://www.berkleemusic.com/discuss/...age_id=1419065 and a scientific paper published by two professors at University of Sheffield, http://musicweb.hmt-hannover.de/esco.../MS9v2En.htm#6, (in other words folks that know a whole lot more about music than I do), since tempered tuning came into being, there is no difference between keys. Differences lie mainly with the 3rd and the 7th, so that D minor is no sadder than E minor or C minor, and C major is no happier than Ab major (just easier to play without a capo).

Matt

Matt,
I believe that everybody's perception of pitch and reaction to pitch is different, therefore, to interpret the sound of a particular chord or key is highly subjective.

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Originally Posted by Bern (Post 1033855)

...I believe that everybody's perception of pitch and reaction to pitch is different, therefore, to interpret the sound of a particular chord or key is highly subjective.

Hi Bern...
Not sure that each individual perceives pitch differently or uniquely from all other humans. We do share a lot of physical and emotional similarity with others in the human species.

People in groups at pitch oriented events (called concerts) do tend to respond similarly to the music presented, so there must be some reactions to music which are shared by large groups within society. And there is no denying that audiences at musical events respond in similar fashion - dancing, clapping, tapping etc. This is apparently in response to the music being presented.

Good composers know this and write and arrange accordingly to harness that power. Sometimes they are probably happy accidents that happen to move people.

Often they are in response to cool licks that guitarists or pianists have been working out on their own that moved them - and when they are integrated into compositions and played they seem to move others as well...we call them hooks.

Try playing the chord progression to ''G-L-O-R-I-A'' in another key or on another instrument and it doesn't create the same response as those simple little licks played on the original version by Eddie And The Hotrods.

I know in my ''keyboard phase'' days, that it at least appeared that people in audiences responded to certain keys and the voicings of large fat sounding fill chords played at fairly substantial volumes more than others.

My explorations lead me to think that either certain keys carry more energy and are therefore preferred by certain groups of writers and instrumentalists, or else the instruments themselves are more prone to developing energetic sounding music and therefore are associated with the keys that are easiest to play on those instruments (ie guitars play better in sharps).

A theory floating around the musical community is that sharp keys portray more energy than flat keys, and that flat keys tend to sound more mellow than sharp keys.

It might be that guitars lend themselves better to playing in sharp keys, and those who write with guitars tend to write more energetic songs that create the perception that sharp keys are more exciting.

Or it could be a match made in heaven, sharp keys easily played on instruments which are played more percussively and energetically producing even more exciting compositions.

One is the loneliest number. :D

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