Can you guess: Microphone or Directsound
 

Hi there,
I´m new to this forum.

Thanks for the great informations and tips from everyone !!!
My name is Dirk and I´m from germany, so excuse my english.

Based on recommendations from this Forum and a little bit of research I finally completed my acousticguitar rig. Well for now.
So I just made a fast and dry recording. One file is the direct sound of the pickups (K&K pure mini and Fishman rare earth blend) and the other file is a small condenser microphone (Audiotechnica MB4000C).

Only EQ has been used.

Can you guess the recording method ?

Here is the link:
www.polyphon-recording.de\testmicdirect.zip

Greetings Dirk

The second file sounds more clear and detailed to me, so I'm guessing its the mic.

Congrats to you, whichever one is the K&K/mag rig, it sounds pretty darn good and will serve you well at gigs - without the proximity problems of close miking or the feedback invitation of more distant miking.

I was surprised at how close they were, I thought for sure I would pick out the mag/K&K set up. With that said, I am listening on crappy laptop speakers. I would guess the mic as test b as well.

How were they recorded ? Into a mixer and what software? Thanks, just wondering and sound darn good

I'd say B is the mic to, crisper attack and more dynamics, but I agree they both sound good. I have the exact same pickup combo :-)

Both recordings sound really good! I'm going to say that the mic alone recording is the first one, A.

Yeah, A sounds like the mic to me. But B sounds pretty good, too. I assume this involved a fair bit of EQ, perhaps matching the pickup to the mic?

After reading SpruceTop's and Doug's posts, I'm second guessing myself. B has more of an in-your-face and intimate feel. Maybe that is why I like it better. Whether or not its a mic, I'd be happy to record with that sound.

Signal path pickups:

Each pickup goes through an Artec Graphic EQ pedal (3) - Bose T1 Tonematch - Yamaha MD4 Mixer - Motu 1224 - Adobe Audition

Well the Software doesn´t matter :-)

Signal path Microphone

About 5 to 6 inches in front of the 14 fret pointing towards the soundhole.


I was surprised too :-)
Yesterday I made the first comparison. Today I thought I have to share this cause I was pretty happy with the sound ! I did a lot of tweaking with the EQ till the sound I heard from the Amp was matching the natural tone of the guitar as close as possible.


Yes EQ was my friend and a lot of it :-)
The K&K needed the most eq especially in the bass area. The other Pickups mainly around 280 to 800Hz.

The pickup recording got a little cut in the 10kHz to 20kHz region to match the microphone afterwards. I maybe could have done it with the Bose.

So which recording was which, you didn't say :-)

I think A is direct, and sounds great to me,
and B is mic'ed.
There seems to be more air in the B recording as far as I can tell on these crummy computer speakers.
What did I win? Bahahaha:)

Hi Dirk,
The second one is the mic, but more importantly is that the little piece you're playing is very, very cool! Very nice articulation on your hammers & pull-off balanced with the frailing!

It sounds fine direct, and sounds okay on mic.

I hope it's going to grow into a whole composition!

Best regards,
Howard Emerson

SPOILER ALERT








File A: Pickups direct
File B: Microphone

You won my homemade Burgerbun recipe:
Sorry everything in gramms

Dry ingredients: mix together
1000 gr Flour 405 (cakeflour I guess)
22 gr Sugar
22 gr Salt
14gr dry yeast

Wet ingredients: mix together
1000 gr Water (lukewarm)
30 gr Honey
75 gr Butter (melted)
2 eggs
15 gr beet syrup dont know the english word

Mix the dry and wet ingridients and let them rest till rissen. (about 1 hour)
Form balls (80-100) gramms. Add flower if dough is to sticky. Put them on a backing tray and use some oiled plastic wrap to cover them. Let them rise again for about 1-2 hours. press them down to flatten the dough (with the oiled wrap) then remove the wrap and brush them with a mix of (egg yolk and milk), add some sesame seeds. Bake for 15-20 min in a 329 F oven (till golden brown). after baking put them on a cooling rack and cover them with a towel. Enjoy !!!

329 F??? That's hilarious!
I'm retired from the restaurant industry after 40 plus years and that temp is a first.:)
You're OK with me, Dirk. I'll let you know how these Burgerbuns work out.