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imc2111 12-29-2020 10:10 PM

Playing classical with no nails professionally. Is it possible?
 
Something I’ve always wondered. Is it possible to play classical guitar as a professional but not use nails, just the fingertips?

Dak 12-29-2020 11:58 PM

I say no way. Nylon strings need to be picked in a sharp, percussive manner to make a decent sound. It has to be a sturdy fingernail or a pick, and you can't play classical guitar repertoire with a pick. It's theoretically possible with squeeze-on fingernail simulation picks of some sort. I'd be interested to know if anyone has ever succeeded with these.

ObiWanSymbian 12-30-2020 12:30 AM

Fingernails are a must.

The “squeeze-on” artificial I’m using are Alaskan picks which I cannot recommend strongly enough.

dkstott 12-30-2020 05:10 AM

Absolutely it's possible.

This site is dedicated to all the greats who played without nails

https://rmclassicalguitar.com/

Golffishny 12-30-2020 08:38 AM

I prefer the sound without nails, both on nylon and steel string. Nails to me sound harsh and thin. To each their own. Just play.

sam.spoons 12-30-2020 09:51 AM

My classical player mate has used the services of his local nail bar in the past when a gig was looming and he had broken a nail. It works well but don't leave artificial nails on for more than a couple of days as your real nail will soften and it then takes a long while for it to recover enough to use them for playing again.

I don't play classical but do play some finger style and I don't like playing without nails, but, annoyingly, I don't get on with fingerpicks either (and I've tried loads). The nearest I've found are Alaska Finger Picks because, unlike conventional fingerpicks, they sit slightly under your nail so the tip is in the same place as your nail would be.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=aLaska+...rkbootcri01-21

JParrilla 12-30-2020 02:04 PM

Read this and watch the video:

https://www.classicalguitarshed.com/...t-fingernails/

Long story short its definitely possible. You can attack the strings a bit differently with flesh to get a more nail like sound. Is it going to sound exactly like a nail? maybe not. But is it going to be a deal breaker? I wouldnt think so.

MarkinLA 12-30-2020 09:18 PM

There have been many famed guitarists throughout some 6-ish centuries of the guitar's evolution who've played without nails...
Try it. See if it works for you..
If so, that is all that matters my friend !....

Mark

ObiWanSymbian 12-31-2020 01:27 AM

“As a professional “
That’s the key point.
If you think about the sound made by contemporary classical guitarists, I will repeat myself, but I think that it is impossible to produce this sound without nails, artificial or natural.

FrankHS 12-31-2020 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam.spoons (Post 6589913)
.... It works well but don't leave artificial nails on for more than a couple of days as your real nail will soften and it then takes a long while for it to recover enough to use them for playing again...

Ive had plastic nails on my "a" continually for at least 6 years, and intermittently for another 4 years before that. Two simple tricks. Only cover 50 or 60% of nail bed, allowing the rest of nail bed to breathe, and 2., keep the borders sealed from water invasion with nail glue (meaning a light CA retouch every few days.) 90% of fake nail problems are pilot error.

TBman 01-01-2021 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dkstott (Post 6589681)
Absolutely it's possible.

This site is dedicated to all the greats who played without nails

https://rmclassicalguitar.com/

That's a good tone. I'm going to research this.... Calluses?


FrankHS 01-01-2021 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TBman (Post 6592712)
That's a good tone. I'm going to research this.... Calluses?

Pretty sure the above gentleman recommends moisturizer on hands to prevent any callouses.

Carey 01-01-2021 07:52 PM

Not sure what playing "professionally" even means, in these days of the [faux?] "pandemic". I'm not a professional by any stretch, but am glad
to now be playing with nails only on my fore and middle fingers.. it has taken some time to build a callus on the ring finger, but the sound is purer, if a little quieter; the flesh-only thumb was quite a bit easier, IME. It depends on what
kind of sound really speaks to you (or as importantly, your potential audience!), of course.

Adding: I attended a class given by Nigel North once, where he made some
of the most ravishing and rhythmical sounds that I've heard on a plucked instrument, and without nails.. he then said [dismissively, maybe] "I don't play the gitaah.." He was playing a guitar someone handed him, to demonstrate. One anecdote.

Dak 01-02-2021 12:19 AM

The initial question was: is it possible? You can get over that bar with just one counterexample, so it appears the answer is probably yes.

OTOH, Django Reinhardt invented a whole guitar playing genre and wowed the world for decades, with only two fretting fingers. Jeff Healy was blind and played his guitar lap steel style, and was probably on par with the best blues jammers in history. Beethoven composed some of the best music ever written while completely deaf and half-mad. Almost anything is possible for the best of the best, but they are extreme outliers...

My objection to using flesh finger nubs as picks on a nylon string guitar is that it is definitely a handicap. It makes getting a good sound, which is already hard enough for normal people who aren't world-historic masters, vastly harder. To me it seems like trying to reinvent the wheel. If you don't have suitable fingernails, you are probably better off changing strategy at a fundamental level, like playing a different instrument or a different guitar style, than trying that much harder than the next guy to get a similar outcome because you are fixated on playing traditional classical guitar.

Dogsnax 01-02-2021 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Carey (Post 6592740)
the [faux?] "pandemic".

Moderators....please address this comment.


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