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fetellier 03-19-2021 08:23 AM

Tellier Guitars Nylon crossover
 
New prototype project a nylon string crossover has begun. EIR Rosewood back and sides Lurtz Spruce top with Hauser style bracing/.

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Thanks for looking comments are always welcome

Fred

virob 03-21-2021 09:07 AM

A crossover. This will be interesting.

fetellier 03-23-2021 11:51 AM

More progress photos though things will grind to a halt on the 25th as I go in for surgery on my right shoulder.

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Close up of scoop cutaway support block

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Close up of arm rest bevel support block

Thanks for looking feel free to comment
Fred

neomastino 03-23-2021 12:07 PM

Best of luck with your surgery and I look forward to seeing the continuation of this beautiful build upon your return.

John Osthoff 03-24-2021 06:22 AM

Hey Fred,

I hope the surgery goes well and that you have a speedy recovery. Cool that you are doing this crossover guitar. I have not ventured into the nylon world. Not sure if I ever will find the time, but it is on my to-do list. I do have a hybid archtop coming up, with a carved top and flat back. Anyway, again, great work and wishing you a quick return to the shop.

Dustinfurlow 03-27-2021 07:34 AM

Beautiful rosette!

fetellier 04-04-2021 04:22 PM

Managed to final voice the top and close the box before my shoulder surgery and finally got around to posting photos. Shoulder healing well and pain much more manageable though a few more weeks in sling ahead of me.

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Thanks for looking, any and all comments appreciated.
Fred

Steve Kinnaird 04-05-2021 08:03 AM

Hey Fred, heal quickly!
My commentóand Dustin beat me to itóbeautiful rosette!
Anxious for you to get well enough to finish this beauty!

Steve

fetellier 04-05-2021 11:07 AM

Thanks for the comment Steve. Actually I seem to be healing well, I see the surgeon Wed and hope to get the ok to be more active.

J-FC is waiting for me to buff and assemble his Maple Parlor, I ran out of time before the surgery.

The cool thing about the rosette is the spalt came from a piece of scrap at a friends wood shop. I was able to get 2 real nice rosettes and there is a coupl other areas in the stick that will yield 3 or 4 more. I was at his place yesterday and he gave me several boards with some awesome spalt areas so probably a life time supply waiting to resaw.

Fred

tkoehler1 04-08-2021 10:21 AM

This guitar sure looks like a winner.

I've always liked your style and guitars - but - I'm always a bit skeptical when any steel string builder goes to nylon - it seems like a good nylon string is really hard to make - very elusive. I'm not trying to throw water on the parade I guess I'm just wondering if you have thought about this? Are there certain key parts of the guitar that will make or break the sound in your opinion?

You don't see many classical guitars with Lutz tops - does this matter to you or is spruce spruce?

Also have you thought about the scale length and string spacing and have specs in mind?

Thanks,

TK

fetellier 04-08-2021 12:04 PM

Quote:

I'm always a bit skeptical when any steel string builder goes to nylon - it seems like a good nylon string is really hard to make - very elusive. I'm not trying to throw water on the parade I guess I'm just wondering if you have thought about this? Are there certain key parts of the guitar that will make or break the sound in your opinion?
As to your thoughts yes I have done extensive research on classical guitars and am basing my body on the Hauser 1937 plan, though my top will be somewhat thinner and bracing a bit stronger than the plan as I plan on adjusting resonances as needed after completion. To me the key part of any instrument is top and body resonance and response so it will possibly be a bit tighter at the start.

The Lutz top should be an advantage as when I decide on a project the top is selected on the woods attributes not its species. This top is one of the best from my current stash

Nut width will be 1 7/8 with string spacing in proportion to that a 18" radius on fingerboard and a 650 scale length as per the Hauser plan

Thanks for the questions which I hope I have answered for you.
Fred

colins 04-09-2021 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Kinnaird (Post 6682684)
Hey Fred, heal quickly!
My commentóand Dustin beat me to itóbeautiful rosette!
Anxious for you to get well enough to finish this beauty!

Steve

All the above from me too. I'll add some praise for that very nice looking EIR. And if you (or another luthier) are up for a general question, what does the Hauser bracing bring to the guitar that differentiates it from the X bracing common with steel strings? Does the relative tension of the nylon strings versus the steel strings have an impact?

fetellier 04-09-2021 08:18 AM

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And if you (or another luthier) are up for a general question, what does the Hauser bracing bring to the guitar that differentiates it from the X bracing common with steel strings? Does the relative tension of the nylon strings versus the steel strings have an impact?
Nylon and steel are totally different animals, the Hauser bracing is a form of fan strut layout which is one of the many flavors of classical bracing. There is a huge amount of info available on classical top design that can be found online.

Fred

colins 04-10-2021 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fetellier (Post 6685977)
Nylon and steel are totally different animals, the Hauser bracing is a form of fan strut layout which is one of the many flavors of classical bracing. There is a huge amount of info available on classical top design that can be found online.

Fred

Thanks Fred, it does make for interesting reading:

http://www.masterguitars.com/Article1.htm
https://www.thisisclassicalguitar.co...sical-guitars/

fetellier 05-05-2021 02:43 PM

I have been laid up for the last 5 weeks after shoulder surgery, still do not have much strength or range of motion yet but now can do a bit of shop work. I got the body routed for binding and purfling but am not healed enough to glue and tape the binding to the guitar.

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Bending purfling on the side bending form. For the vertical bends for the side purfling I tape the wet purfling between strips of plastic binding and tape to form

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Body squared up on cradle ready to route

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Routing completed ready to bind

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Thanks for looking comments are always welcome.
Fred


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