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Lonzo 12-31-2020 11:37 AM

WOW !
 
... that really is a veeery nice ringout of the year! Looks fantastic!
...even with a purple background for the party :D

Seriously, this is gorgeous!

A healthy and happy new year to everyone !

TomB'sox 12-31-2020 11:41 AM

I love the art deco pieces, not inlays, but on-top-of lays haha and that butt wedge inlay is amazing. I also really like the fret board markers.

Someone is getting a beauty.

Hanter 12-31-2020 12:50 PM

Some real special woods used on this Josie ďTreeĒ and itís coordinated perfectly! Gorgeous instrument. Happy New Year Mark!

cigarfan 01-01-2021 05:58 AM

I'll say it again. An amazingly gorgeous guitar!

A very happy guitar owner is anxiously waiting.

Happy New Year! :)

ukejon 01-01-2021 08:40 AM

Love learning more about Gerry and your commitment to traditional techniques. Great to see.

Mark Hatcher 01-01-2021 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonzo (Post 6591188)
... that really is a veeery nice ringout of the year! Looks fantastic!
...even with a purple background for the party :D

Seriously, this is gorgeous!

A healthy and happy new year to everyone !

Thanks Lonzo, Purple seemed like the right background color for this guitar. I don't think I've used that purple background for seven years when I built a similar Josie that was Cocobolo with very curly Koa binding.

https://live.staticflickr.com/7411/1...3466c373_c.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomB'sox (Post 6591195)
I love the art deco pieces, not inlays, but on-top-of lays haha and that butt wedge inlay is amazing. I also really like the fret board markers.

Someone is getting a beauty.

Thanks Tom there is a lot going on with this guitar. It also has the wedge, multiple bevels, 13 frets to the body and some killer woods.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanter (Post 6591279)
Some real special woods used on this Josie ďTreeĒ and itís coordinated perfectly! Gorgeous instrument. Happy New Year Mark!

Thanks Hanter, all those browns and reds come together really well. It's a pretty fancy guitar considering it's all woods without the traditional abalone. We're planning on gold Evo frets.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigarfan (Post 6591898)
I'll say it again. An amazingly gorgeous guitar!

A very happy guitar owner is anxiously waiting.

Happy New Year! :)

Thanks cigarfan and I hope you keep saying it for a long long time!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukejon (Post 6592010)
Love learning more about Gerry and your commitment to traditional techniques. Great to see.

Thanks ukejon, It's great to have suppliers who are as excited about what they do and have to offer as I am. For example ,I was talking with Brent at Alaska Specialty about the Red, White, and Blue guitars I am doing and he got all excited about some wood he's recently split and put aside. He says, "Oh I got a couple tops that work great for what your doing!" So he sends me some pictures of some bearclaw Sitka floatwood tops that have all three colors of the Red, White, and Blue already in them:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e6921e94_b.jpg

There is a myth that luthier's work is solitary.
I'm part of an ecosystem of artists, craftsmen and suppliers.

TomB'sox 01-01-2021 06:53 PM

OK, I was remiss, let me add that fret board inlay to my list of really awesome amazing things on this guitar!

mikealpine 01-01-2021 09:02 PM

Western Red Cedar and Plumwood...thatís haunting me a bit. I bet it would be stunning! I also love those inlays.

Mark Hatcher 01-02-2021 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomB'sox (Post 6592659)
OK, I was remiss, let me add that fret board inlay to my list of really awesome amazing things on this guitar!

Thanks Tom!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikealpine (Post 6592802)
Western Red Cedar and Plumwood...thatís haunting me a bit. I bet it would be stunning! I also love those inlays.

I agree! I have some particularly red WRC tops that would work and look great with that Plumwood.

Mark

Mark Hatcher 01-04-2021 10:48 AM

Western Red Cedar Tri-Color Floatwood
 
I re-sawed this Western Red Cedar floatwood billet I posted about a couple weeks ago:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a44bcfac_c.jpg

I was able to get 11 1/2 top sets from it. After re-sawing the sets I stickered them which prevents cracks and warps from occurring while the tops humidity acclimates to my shop:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6b3ba28e_b.jpg

Now that they have stabilized and I can show what they look like:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...31d5af66_c.jpg

I took the first set and the last set to shoot. You can figure all the other sets are in between. I put a quick wipe of shellac on them so you can see the color in the tops. I especially like how red the reds are.

Here's a closer view with a Penelope guitar tracing:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...bec3e168_b.jpg

They are perfectly quartered with absolutely no run out. I'm getting all the tap tone I could ask for!

Thanks for viewing!
Mark

virob 01-04-2021 12:50 PM

Ok, that is some impressive looking cedar! Can't wait to see that in a guitar.

Have you done any work with yellow cedar? It isnít a real cedar, the stuff I have is kind of floppy and wouldnít be suitable, but some classical guitar are made with it.

Mark Hatcher 01-05-2021 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by virob (Post 6595458)
Ok, that is some impressive looking cedar! Can't wait to see that in a guitar.

Have you done any work with yellow cedar? It isn’t a real cedar, the stuff I have is kind of floppy and wouldn’t be suitable, but some classical guitar are made with it.

Thanks virob I look forward to using it. I do have some Yellow Cedar it’s harder, stiffer and heavier than WRC. I think that is representative of Yellow Cedar normally is.
I seems more like spruce than WRC. I like the color and think it would pair well with a heavier wood like Olivewood or Ebony.

Lonzo 01-06-2021 04:33 AM

I like wood
 
..with fine grain, medulary rays, character... this cedar ticks all the boxes.
I know, just optics... superficial... yes, it has to sound great as well, but if it does and looks good (to me anyway, tastes differ) whatís not to like.
I know I probably am a minority with this, but I actually do not prefer the perfect pale, almost white spruce- just referring to looks.. I would nonetheless take it for sound if I had a possibility to compare.
.. not to start a discussion here ;o)

Nemoman 01-06-2021 10:16 AM

That cedar looks amazing, Mark--can't wait to se what you create with it!

Mark Hatcher 01-08-2021 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonzo (Post 6596867)
..with fine grain, medulary rays, character... this cedar ticks all the boxes.
I know, just optics... superficial... yes, it has to sound great as well, but if it does and looks good (to me anyway, tastes differ) whatís not to like.
I know I probably am a minority with this, but I actually do not prefer the perfect pale, almost white spruce- just referring to looks.. I would nonetheless take it for sound if I had a possibility to compare.
.. not to start a discussion here ;o)

Thanks Lonzo, you are not alone in this. I think there is a growing appreciation for great sounding woods that have a little character.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemoman (Post 6597130)
That cedar looks amazing, Mark--can't wait to se what you create with it!

Thanks Nemoman. Iím looking forward to all the possibilities too!

Thanks for commenting
Mark

Mark Hatcher 01-10-2021 01:20 PM

French Polish
 
I'm just getting into the final sessions French polishing my latest Woodman 00 guitar. I enjoy French polishing because it's such a hands on process:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...37854719_b.jpg

After I get the final coats on next week it will need to harden up before I do a final buff. During that time I'll make and attach the bridge. I'll also be doing the other details such as the nut and saddle, truss rod cover, mounting the tuners and finally stringing it up and the initial set-up. I hope to have that much done by the end of the week.

BrianM99 01-10-2021 03:52 PM

I love all of your updates on my Woodsman Mark. It's looking great and I'm getting more excited the nearer it comes to completion. Like I said before, this model just exudes "old tone".

Lonzo 01-12-2021 09:05 AM

Hi Mark, how many of those coats or layers are applied ? Is that the same for each wood or does it differ ?

Thanks,
Lonzo

Mark Hatcher 01-12-2021 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianM99 (Post 6600998)
I love all of your updates on my Woodsman Mark. It's looking great and I'm getting more excited the nearer it comes to completion. Like I said before, this model just exudes "old tone".

It's coming together nicely. The traditional unbleached shellac technique I use helps me get to the unfettered tone of vintage guitars. It also adds to that old look.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonzo (Post 6602491)
Hi Mark, how many of those coats or layers are applied ? Is that the same for each wood or does it differ ?

Thanks,
Lonzo

I do French polish a couple of ways. With the Woodsman I try to keep it to how it was more commonly done in the 1800s. There are a couple coats of egg used as a binder and sealer and then I apply the the shellac. It goes on heavier than more contemporary techniques as I am not using any oil in this process. I am sealing the pores but am not attempting to fill them so there are only about 18 coats or so.

With regular French polish using bleached shellac and oil the coats go on much thinner and are pretty much burnishing in. I do probably 70 micro coats or so.

Here are some progress pictures of the Woodsman:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...94070892_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8ef16bea_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9f7c9f49_c.jpg

ukejon 01-13-2021 07:45 AM

Do buff with a compound? By hand or machine?

Mark Hatcher 01-14-2021 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukejon (Post 6603398)
Do buff with a compound? By hand or machine?

I buff French polish by hand. On the Woodsman I go a little more traditional with rottenstone and a felt pad.

Lonzo 01-14-2021 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Hatcher (Post 6604170)
I buff French polish by hand. On the Woodsman I go a little more traditional with rottenstone and a felt pad.

.. and „only 18-70“ coats ...by hand. Good exercise it seems. Thanks for the insight!

BEJ 01-15-2021 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Hatcher (Post 6602963)
It's coming together nicely. The traditional unbleached shellac technique I use helps me get to the unfettered tone of vintage guitars. It also adds to that old look.



I do French polish a couple of ways. With the Woodsman I try to keep it to how it was more commonly done in the 1800s. There are a couple coats of egg used as a binder and sealer and then I apply the the shellac. It goes on heavier than more contemporary techniques as I am not using any oil in this process. I am sealing the pores but am not attempting to fill them so there are only about 18 coats or so.

With regular French polish using bleached shellac and oil the coats go on much thinner and are pretty much burnishing in. I do probably 70 micro coats or so.

Here are some progress pictures of the Woodsman:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...94070892_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8ef16bea_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9f7c9f49_c.jpg

Mark, good info on the process. Have you ever read any finishing articles by the late George Frank writing in Fine Woodworking? He always had great stories to go with the finishing knowledge. He did a French Polishing article (issue #58 May/Jun'86) that had a lot of detail on materials used and why and how to use various devices for application. His included story on how he became a master at FP is worth the read. The guy was a true piece of work in a good way.

Bruce.

Mark Hatcher 01-16-2021 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEJ (Post 6604940)
Mark, good info on the process. Have you ever read any finishing articles by the late George Frank writing in Fine Woodworking? He always had great stories to go with the finishing knowledge. He did a French Polishing article (issue #58 May/Jun'86) that had a lot of detail on materials used and why and how to use various devices for application. His included story on how he became a master at FP is worth the read. The guy was a true piece of work in a good way.

Bruce.

Thanks for commenting Bruce. I havenít read George Frankís article yet but I look forward to. I was introduced to French polishing by Frank Finochio when I made my second guitar at one of his classes. I later picked up some nice tips from Ervin Somogyi while attending his Masters Voicing Classes. I also got a good start following the methods written by Bob and Orville Milburn.
I made an early commitment to mastering French polish because when well done I personally feel there is no better finish for guitar.

Mark Hatcher 01-16-2021 03:45 PM

What does a luthier do on the weekend?
 
The weekend is here it's time to work on the shop as opposed to in the shop. But I guess I have to be in the shop to work on the shop. In the shop to me means working on guitars, except it's the weekend so it means I'll can work on the shop. Hmm, Maybe I'm spending too much time in the shop :)

If you've been following my posts lately you may know that I'm slowly converting my shop over to non-powered hand tools only. The soul of a power free woodworking shop is the workbench. So I got the best I could afford and I've been making it my own and setting it up for the things I do when making guitars.

I'm in the process of building out the hand tool wall behind it as well. The first thing I added on the back of the workbench was a 6" wide tool shelf. I added it not so much for tools but for catching small stuff that falls off the back of the bench. The bench weighs hundreds of pounds so it isn't easy for one person to move.

The second reason I added the tool shelf was to pull it away from the wall a little bit. It gives me more access to the bench top because I have tools hanging on the before mentioned tool wall. They get in the way and worst case scenario a tool drops from the wall and goes right through the back of an almost finished Tree guitar back.

Then I added a clamping shelf onto the bench end. That comes in handy and it uses the 3/4" hardware I already have. The bench itself has 1" bench dog holes. Another big advantage is it goes over the trash can. I've had a couple small items drop off the tool wall and mysteriously disappear. That won't happen any more!

So this weekend's project is a woodworking job. I saw this picture in an ad for this swing stool:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3be5d594_c.jpg

It would be perfect in pretty much the same spot on my workbench. I do almost all of my work standing but for close work like inlays or cutting the miters around an end graft it's best to sit. This is perfect for that and when I stand up I can easily knee it around out of the way under the bench. No more tripping on that stupid roll-around stool that is always lurking, waiting to strike.

The swing-away stool comes with or without the seat. I have just enough European Beech left over from the tool tray I made to make my own seat. The Beach matches my workbench perfectly with a couple coats on linseed oil on it. I expect the shipment this Wednesday or Thursday and I aim to have the seat ready to go.

I'm joining 5 pieces together to make the seat. My workbenches' laminated top has splines running down the joints for strength and to prevent warps so I thought I'd do that on my seat too. To make it mine I'm making the splines out of Eastern Black Walnut. The ends will show and have a nice contrasting touch:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6c9f2063_c.jpg

Here it is on the workbench getting glued up:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...aa379efb_c.jpg

Tomorrow I'll unclamp it and clean it all up and put the finish on. Then back to work in the shop on Monday!

Thanks for getting through all that!
Mark

Guitars44me 01-16-2021 09:49 PM

Work ON the shop
 
I love the idea of a hand tool only Shop! And your seat top will match the bench? How cool is that???

Very nifty!

Enjoy it

Paul

Erithon 01-16-2021 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Hatcher (Post 6606448)
a tool drops from the wall and goes right through the back of an almost finished Tree guitar back

Honestly terrifying, Mark. Just thinking about it makes me shudder.

Thanks for sharing your bench. I love reading about your iterative shop. I'm looking forward to seeing how the stool turns out under finish.

Carpinteria 01-17-2021 06:55 AM

Great improvements to the shop, Mark, increasing both safety and functionality at the same time. I put a removable tool tray on the back of my bench and am happy with it for the same reasons. The seat should look super with the walnut splines! Thanks for sharing! Dave

cigarfan 01-17-2021 07:54 AM

Guess I wouldn't recognize the place (on the inside). That is an awesome seat Mark. Cool stuff!

Mark Hatcher 01-17-2021 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guitars44me (Post 6606711)
I love the idea of a hand tool only Shop! And your seat top will match the bench? How cool is that???

Very nifty!

Enjoy it

Paul

Thanks Paul, A hand tool only shop offers many opportunities for me to improve both the accuracy and quality of my work buiding guitars. It also improves the environment in which I do the building. It's healthier and more conducive to creativity.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erithon (Post 6606723)
Honestly terrifying, Mark. Just thinking about it makes me shudder.

Thanks for sharing your bench. I love reading about your iterative shop. I'm looking forward to seeing how the stool turns out under finish.

Thanks Erithon! I do try to keep things changing. I learn more and am more inspired that way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carpinteria (Post 6606862)
Great improvements to the shop, Mark, increasing both safety and functionality at the same time. I put a removable tool tray on the back of my bench and am happy with it for the same reasons. The seat should look super with the walnut splines! Thanks for sharing! Dave

Thanks Carpinteria, While it is an improvement both for safety and functionality I'll admit that it was the cool look of the swing away stool that first caught my eye!

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigarfan (Post 6606896)
Guess I wouldn't recognize the place (on the inside). That is an awesome seat Mark. Cool stuff!

Thanks cigarfan! There are a bunch of changes but I think you'd still recognize the overall layout.

Well the glue dried and I cleaned up the Euro Beech seat this morning:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0076e9e2_c.jpg

Here it is with the first Linseed oil coat drying:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ec801a06_b.jpg

So I'm all set for the base to come this week and I'll get this all set up!

Mark


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