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gerardo1000 06-06-2019 08:57 PM

Is it worth to spend more for an Eastman archtop?
 
I have my eyes on a brand new Loar LH-600 all solid wood archtop that I can buy at a very good price (less than $800) . Should I wait and save for an Eastman AR-610, also all solid wood but way more expensive? Both guitars are only acoustic, and that is fine to me because I play acoustic i.e. unplugged
Does the Eastman justify the difference in price?

Bluemonk 06-06-2019 09:17 PM

I've never played a Loar, but I've heard mixed reviews. Eastmans, on the other hand, are well made guitars. That I can attest to. So I would say if the difference is only a few hundred, then yes, you probably should wait. Especially if it doesn't take you too long to raise the extra bucks.

Steve DeRosa 06-06-2019 09:27 PM

Depends what you're looking for in terms of tone and how you're going to use the guitar; whereas the Loar will have the classic strong midrange emphasis and laser-like focused cut characteristic of the Eddie Lang-era 16" Gibsons - great for early Big Band-era comping and single-string solo work - Eastmans in general have a more "modern" tonality with a broader frequency response and less apparent volume, arguably better-suited to a first-timer accustomed to flattop guitars. The mahogany back/sides of the AR610 further emphasize this characteristic, smoothing out the upper-mid stridency many lower-end maple archtops often exhibit - something Epiphone used to advantage in their similarly-constructed, circa-1950 17" Devon model - and to my ears one of these would be my first choice for acoustic chord-solo work, comping in a quartet/quintet where the guitar needs to fill more sonic space, backing up a solo singer (either alone or with an upright bass), or if you just want a guitar to mellow out with after a hard week at the office. Keep in mind that archtops are by nature highly idiosyncratic and temperamental beasts, less consistent from instrument to instrument than comparable-quality flattops, and unless you're buying a hand-carved box from an individual luthier (with a $5K price of admission and going up - way up - from there) you might go through a bunch of frogs before finding your princess - particularly, as Bluemonk suggests, when it comes to the Loars...

As with everything else, YMMV...

gerardo1000 06-06-2019 10:14 PM

Well, actually, unless I buy an Eastman AR-610 pre-owned, the difference with the new Loar LH-600 would be around $600.00... not a small amount of money.
The problem is that here in Michigan nobody have these two guitars in stock, so I have to buy on line. I am planning to play the archtop fingerstyle but also to learn a bit of jazz solo/chords.

billyg 06-07-2019 05:52 AM

Note also that Eastmans have a 1 3/4 inch nut width and necks that are acoustic guitar player friendly in my opinion.

Mandobart 06-07-2019 06:22 AM

If I were in Michigan I'd ride over to Elderly. I'm sure I could find something that I'd love.

mr. beaumont 06-07-2019 07:10 AM

Loar also has the 1 3/4 inch nut.

Apples and oranges, sound wise. What do you want to play on it?

Silly Moustache 06-07-2019 07:16 AM

Hi, I've had two Loar archtops, first one given away, second one ) LH-700 returned.
I've had two Eastman AR805s, only bought the second one because I foolishly traded he first. wonderful instruments and far superior to Loars in every way.

My earlier AR805(e) in "classic finish"




My AR805 in 'burst :


scooter74 06-07-2019 01:49 PM

I don't believe Loar is in the same league with Eastman. As with anything, even made in China you get what you pay for.

gerardo1000 06-07-2019 02:04 PM

Mr. Beaumont,

I am looking to play fingerstyle jazz and blues.

gerardo1000 06-07-2019 02:29 PM

Mandobart,

There is not one acoustic archtop sold at Elderly.

godfreydaniel 06-07-2019 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerardo1000 (Post 6080976)
Mandobart,

There is not one acoustic archtop sold at Elderly.

There are 5 on their website, but only one (Gretsch) is in the Loar price range.

Select acoustic guitars from their main menu, then choose the acoustic archtop filter.

mr. beaumont 06-07-2019 08:53 PM

Finger style without fingerpicks, I'd hold out for an Eastman.

The Loar is an old school parallel braced archtop...you gotta use some muscle (or at least a nice heavy pick) for them to do what they do best.

gerardo1000 06-07-2019 09:27 PM

Thank you Mr. Beaumont. On the other hand, I don't know if it makes much sense to look for an archtop (like Eastman) that is closer to a flattop sound!
An old school archtop with vertical bracing may not be as smooth and warm as a "modern" Eastman, but at least is what an archtop should be. I always have my beloved Guild dread when I want a traditional steel strings sound !:)

Bluemonk 06-08-2019 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerardo1000 (Post 6081254)
An old school archtop with vertical bracing may not be as smooth and warm as a "modern" Eastman, but at least is what an archtop should be.

Your opinion, but not mine. I like balance, refinement, and versatility in an archtop.


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