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aaronmarkson 12-08-2020 08:25 PM

Fishman Compression
 
The one knob compression that is built into the fishman aura spectrum DI is fantastic. Is there a standalone compression pedal that feels and sounds like this?

AeroUSA 12-08-2020 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronmarkson (Post 6570741)
The one knob compression that is built into the fishman aura spectrum DI is fantastic. Is there a standalone compression pedal that feels and sounds like this?

When Larry Fishman was on my YouTube interview he mentioned that there may be a series of mini-pedals coming. I would JUMP on the compressor and anti-feedback pedal if it’s true. You can see the interview on my YouTube channel.

dnf777 12-09-2020 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by aaronmarkson (Post 6570741)
The one knob compression that is built into the fishman aura spectrum DI is fantastic. Is there a standalone compression pedal that feels and sounds like this?

Must be the same knob on their Tone DEQ. LIke Bose, fishman delivers on their advertising hype. Their stuff just works.

aaronmarkson 12-09-2020 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AeroUSA (Post 6570821)
When Larry Fishman was on my YouTube interview he mentioned that there may be a series of mini-pedals coming. I would JUMP on the compressor and anti-feedback pedal if it’s true. You can see the interview on my YouTube channel.

I would jump on that as well. Watching your interview now.

SongwriterFan 12-09-2020 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronmarkson (Post 6571093)
I would jump on that as well. Watching your interview now.

Would find anti-feedback more useful . . but if they could put compression and anti-feedback onto ONE micro-pedal . . . wow!

aaronmarkson 12-11-2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SongwriterFan (Post 6571349)
Would find anti-feedback more useful . . but if they could put compression and anti-feedback onto ONE micro-pedal . . . wow!

Yes. This would be nice. And it has to be maddening for a company to determine what to bring to market. All in one unit. Separate units. Units that combine 2 or 3 things. There’s just no way to win.

I’m pretty excited for the individual pedals. I will purchase that compression with no hesitation.

In Aaron Short’s interview with Larry, I learned that the compression that fishman based it on is the dbx over easy compressors. This makes perfect sense to me. The best compressors I’ve found for acoustic is the keeley compressor pro with the knee set to soft and the Petty John Crush. These are both vca style compressors like the dbx. I still prefer the fishman single knob compression on acoustic. Partly because of the simplicity. And partly because it just works.

I may buy one of those old dbx 163 compressors to check out.

willymartin 12-11-2020 05:32 PM

Funny I stumble across this post because just today I was watching a review of the Aura and found the feedback suppressor almost too good to be true. Is it as good as advertised? Supposedly you get your guitar to feedback, crank the knob and the unit will tame up to 3 different trouble areas??

I parted with my Bose L1M2 today but couldn't let go of the T8S...the 3 para eq'd has proven to be far too valuable in helping me with feedback..(using the tuner to dial out problem frequencies...priceless to me) (It has the typical low, mid, high eq and 3 separate para eq settings)

JJBoogie 12-14-2020 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronmarkson (Post 6570741)
The one knob compression that is built into the fishman aura spectrum DI is fantastic. Is there a standalone compression pedal that feels and sounds like this?

How much do you typically use?

aaronmarkson 12-14-2020 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JJBoogie (Post 6576031)
How much do you typically use?



Personally, I like it between 11:00 -1:00 on the dial. Most often between 11:00 - 12:00.

JJBoogie 12-15-2020 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by aaronmarkson (Post 6576086)
Personally, I like it between 11:00 -1:00 on the dial. Most often between 11:00 - 12:00.

Right on. I'll have to try that on the next gig and see how it feels. I wonder what the compression ratio is they use and what type comp they base it off of.

aaronmarkson 12-15-2020 09:52 PM

Fishman Compression
 
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Originally Posted by JJBoogie (Post 6576306)
Right on. I'll have to try that on the next gig and see how it feels. I wonder what the compression ratio is they use and what type comp they base it off of.



It’s based on the dbx over easy compressors - a vca style soft knee compression.

JJBoogie 12-15-2020 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronmarkson (Post 6576951)
It’s based on the dbx over easy compressors - a vca style soft knee compression - the ratio changes with playing dynamics.

Nice! Love VCA comps.

rb1591 06-24-2022 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by aaronmarkson (Post 6570741)
The one knob compression that is built into the fishman aura spectrum DI is fantastic. Is there a standalone compression pedal that feels and sounds like this?

I know this thread is old, but I think the folks that participated in it (and maybe some others) will be interested in my recent experiment. I put my old Aura Acoustic Blender (mid-2000s) into my fx chain just to use the built in comp and feedback. Yep, old Aura big and heavy, but it certainly works. Then I dialed in just a touch of IR (setting on 2, I think). Definitely added some nice resonance ... but careful, you quickly overdo it. I put it first in the chain. Very satisfied with the results. I've seen these old units for less than $100.

And just in case someone from Fishman is reading, if and when the company upgrades the Aura, please consider using the interface from the original. I know some said it was too complicated, but IMO the interface was the perfect blend of analog and digital.

As I've heard Aaron Short say on his YouTube show, sometimes the old stuff is still excellent.

eyesore 06-24-2022 08:16 PM

i have the Fishman EQ pro preamp and it has a compression knob on it too. I don't get it; when i turn it up or on ,all it seems to do is lower my volume. I can't hear any difference when its on or off. can someone explain this?

jricc 06-25-2022 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by eyesore (Post 7029738)
i have the Fishman EQ pro preamp and it has a compression knob on it too. I don't get it; when i turn it up or on ,all it seems to do is lower my volume. I can't hear any difference when its on or off. can someone explain this?

Hi eyesore, a compressor reduces dynamic range. By bringing down the peak values, you give yourself more headroom to bring up the overall signal level (so the quieter parts can be louder).

It is that "make up gain" which makes a sound louder, not the act of compression.

In other words, when you use the compressor, it will "squash" (for lack of better word) your signal and you use the gain to make up the loss of volume.

Hope this helps.


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