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Long813 03-25-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ljguitar (Post 2172586)
Hi Long…
And fretless electric bass gutiars abound as well (my gigging partner plays a 5 string fretless).

Also, fretless guitars are not just a standard acoustic or electric without frets. It is a totally different instrument which shares a shape, some design features and a tuning system (sometimes) with conventional guitars. But it is not the same instrument...

It is played far different, and is impossible to play in any sort of chordal or accompaniment fashion that even resembles standard 6 string. It is well suited to Middle Eastern and Indian Styles...



Thanks for your insight. Guess I should have noted that fretless basses are 'quite' common.

I always thought a fretless guitar was the same just without the fret wires. I've seen mod modifications to do this and have played a few (godin) makes. To me they were the exact same.

The playing style is finally sinking in now. It would extremely difficult to play chords on a fretless.

... They do make slides sound interesting though :)

guto 03-25-2010 09:55 AM

Imagine how dificult would it be to play a full chord in tune with a fretless guitar.

Fretless instruments are usually melodic, not harmonic.
An Harmonica doesn't have frets, though. :D

ljguitar 03-25-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Long813 (Post 2172598)
Thanks for your insight. Guess I should have noted that fretless basses are 'quite' common.

I always thought a fretless guitar was the same just without the fret wires. I've seen mod modifications to do this and have played a few (godin) makes. To me they were the exact same.

The playing style is finally sinking in now. It would extremely difficult to play chords on a fretless.

... They do make slides sound interesting though :)

Hi Long…
All guitars are interesting to me.

I may be a radical, but I think electric and acoustic guitars are different instruments which also (sometimes) share a tuning system.

But they really employ different techniques and amplification systems, and we players tend to use them quite differently. I sure play my electric differently and in a different context than my acoustics.

And actually classical guitars are a different breed as well.

I can play some of the same songs on each one, but the acoustic lends itself to certain types of music better, as do my classical and my electric.

But they are all obviously related...

I watched Sting's 2006 DVD/Album of Lute music today with my gigging partner before work. There is definitely a ''bridge'' there as well...



ljguitar 03-25-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by guto (Post 2172601)
...An Harmonica doesn't have frets, though. :D

Hi guto…
Or a bow or a slide!


Joe N 03-25-2010 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guto (Post 2172601)
Imagine how dificult would it be to play a full chord in tune with a fretless guitar.

Fretless instruments are usually melodic, not harmonic.
An Harmonica doesn't have frets, though. :D

Yes, this is no doubt the answer to the question - the ability to play chords - or at least to play them relatively easily.

guto 03-25-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ljguitar (Post 2172607)
Hi Long…
All guitars are interesting to me.

I may be a radical, but I think electric and acoustic guitars are different instruments which also (sometimes) share a tuning system.

I agree 100%.

I watched Sting's 2006 DVD/Album of Lute music today with my gigging partner before work. There is definitely a ''bridge'' there as well...

Definetly!!!
Here is Juliam Bream to prove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4jvmh_Giaw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISXznwKgKR0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukQnR...B4CF1&index=11




Ok, is my message too short now? ;)

Kabalan 03-25-2010 11:11 AM

hi guto
check your private mail, i wrote you there
eblen

guto 03-25-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kabalan (Post 2172721)
hi guto
check your private mail, i wrote you there
eblen

Got it! Thanks :up:


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