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J-Doug 02-22-2021 10:35 AM

Recording into a treated corner
 
Hi guys,

Any opinions on recording into a treated corner in a 12'-6" X 11'-4" bedroom? I would place three of these in a lazy U in one corner of the room: https://www.gikacoustics.com/product...and-bass-trap/ I would place two SDC mics in the lazy U and record close miced facing into the corner. The remainder of the room would be untreated (full room treatment is not going to happen). The room would have some furniture.

Is this a pointless idea?

MikeBmusic 02-22-2021 10:42 AM

That will definitely help some, however sound emanates from the guitar in all directions, so some kind of absorption behind you would be good too.

Is there a way to hang a quilt or duvet in that corner, and then face out from it, with the traps in front of you?

Rudy4 02-22-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Doug (Post 6643687)
Hi guys,

Any opinions on recording into a treated corner in a 12'-6" X 11'-4" bedroom? I would place three of these in a lazy U in one corner of the room: https://www.gikacoustics.com/product...and-bass-trap/ I would place two SDC mics in the lazy U and recording facing into the corner. The remainder of the room would be untreated (full room treatment is not going to happen). The room would have some furniture.

Is this a pointless idea?

It might be better to face OUT, since what you're trying to avoid is all the weird room reflections coming back to the most active portion of your SDC's polar pattern.

We're all looking for the "easy fix", but I don't think this is gonna get you there.

J-Doug 02-22-2021 10:53 AM

Thanks guys. Just an idea, if only a bad one. Sounds like there will be no cheaper or quick fix for me. I'll just stick with my mediocre Zoom recordings.

rick-slo 02-22-2021 11:42 AM

Give it a try. Will give you an opinion when I hear the results.

KevWind 02-22-2021 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Doug (Post 6643706)
Thanks guys. Just an idea, if only a bad one. Sounds like there will be no cheaper or quick fix for me. I'll just stick with my mediocre Zoom recordings.

Not a bad or pointless idea ,,, as Rick said give it try

Or like Rudy said try backing yourself into that treated corner and play facing out into the room,,,,, close= ish mic'ing,,, and cardioid pattern Which is what most likely what I would try.

RRuskin 02-22-2021 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Doug (Post 6643706)
Thanks guys. Just an idea, if only a bad one. Sounds like there will be no cheaper or quick fix for me. I'll just stick with my mediocre Zoom recordings.

Is excess bass a problem in the room or is it just full of mid to high end splash? If it's the latter, install sound absorbing material in every crease in the room. After that, see what other sound control measures if any, you need to take.

j3ffr0 03-03-2021 07:37 AM

The treatments will help. Corner is the worst spot in the room to record from, but if you must record there, the treatment will help. GIK is good stuff; I think you will notice a difference.

lkingston 03-03-2021 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by j3ffr0 (Post 6652029)
The treatments will help. Corner is the worst spot in the room to record from, but if you must record there, the treatment will help. GIK is good stuff; I think you will notice a difference.

The problem I see is that the corner will exaggerate the bass frequencies, while the simple acoustic treatment will only affect the mids through the highs. If you are using a high pass filter on your mic (like for recording vocals) this may not be an issue since the high pass filter will be cutting this frequency range anyway, but if you are recording full frequency range (like for solo acoustic guitar), the corner of the room will likely sound boomy, even with acoustic panels or hung blankets.

j3ffr0 03-03-2021 08:24 PM

Yeah, if we were talking about foam panels -- nothing.. But it seems like he is talking about bass traps with max absorption between 100 and 630 hz. That should help on a lot of the problem frequencies. Of course further from the corner the better, but we all need to work with what we can. Should be able to make pretty good recordings between those and some eq use.

Andyrondack 03-10-2021 04:59 AM

Can inflable camping mats help with this sort of thing?

jim1960 03-10-2021 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Andyrondack (Post 6658236)
Can inflable camping mats help with this sort of thing?

No, they will not help.

SprintBob 03-10-2021 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Doug (Post 6643687)
Hi guys,

Any opinions on recording into a treated corner in a 12'-6" X 11'-4" bedroom? I would place three of these in a lazy U in one corner of the room: https://www.gikacoustics.com/product...and-bass-trap/ I would place two SDC mics in the lazy U and record close miced facing into the corner. The remainder of the room would be untreated (full room treatment is not going to happen). The room would have some furniture.

Is this a pointless idea?

I record in a 9’ x 9’ room with hard wood floors but with a rug over the area where I record. I bought a freestanding hinged and foldable Gobo consisting of two 30” x 72” panels. I set the Gobo up as a shallow V and setup my mics within in the shallow V. I have a bare wall about 4’ behind me. This set up seems to work really well for what is admittedly a sub-optimal environment.

http://imgur.com/0BWB82i.jpg

Here’s the latest recording I did with it and IMO it’s not bad considering what I have to work with.



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