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j. Kinnaird 05-22-2020 12:11 PM

This list makes me tired just reading it

Hanter 05-22-2020 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guitars44me (Post 6388448)
Hanter sent me a PM yesterday asking all about the "Pablo Package".

Here is the FULL INFO:

The John Kinnard "Pablo Package" continues to evolve and now includes:

Gotoh Mini 510 18:1 tuners with full size wood or plastic buttons
Back, Arm and Cutaway bevels,
Chamfered, bull nosed body edges
sound port,
12 fret cut,
Double sides with lightest weight inner sides. I ask for Spanish Cedar which is super light and smells good too.
elevated floating Fretboard and
Carbon Fiber struts from neckblock to waist to free up the top.
asymmetrical super slim carve neck (I have small hands). with a Hollow CF D-Tube and NO truss rod
Rolled Fretboard edges for comfort
Manzer Wedge. 3/4"
All linings and laminated neck/end blocks are also SC for lightest weight
New, adjustable neck feature

John's new adjustable neck feature! Which is the most elegant I have seen, and eliminates the need for a neck set down the line in the future.

Also I LOVE the Gotoh 510 MINI 18:1 tuners with full size wood or plastic buttons. Save a bunch more weight off the top of the headstock.

Many of these features are for player comfort. The rest are to enhance Tone and VOLUME.

The floating Fretboard is elevated above the top like a violin family instrument or an archtop guitar. Which allows the entire top to move freely to make music, and eliminates the top from structural duties allowing lighter bracing and more movement.

The Carbon Fiber D tube replaces a normal truss rod. It should be plenty rigid to keep the neck from moving much under string tension.
And it saves considerable WEIGHT in the neck. Plus it can NOT be adjusted incorrectly by an incompetent Tech.

Any extra weight makes extended play difficult.
So I always ask John for the lightest build that will not blow up.

Especially with a 14 fret, unbalanced neck weight can make extended playing hard on your left arm. So mostly Spanish Cedar or light weight Mahogany for the neck, which will feature John's multiple laminations and Duck tail Volute for strength as well as good looks!

I would ask John for a 12 fret neck even with the fan Frets. In my experience (which is now considerable), I've never heard similar Guitars where the 12 fret did not sound better than the 14 Fret. Did the one you liked so much have 14 frets clear? All JKs sound wonderful, but I feel he works special magic on his 12 fret instruments. Ask him what HE thinks will sound best for you and what you do

John's 12 fret cutaways have about 13 1/2 frets worth of access due to the low profile neck heel. That is a big plus for performance.

Some of these features were John's suggestions. The rest I asked for to make my unamplified senior/health care and restaurant gigs easier. Of course for the time being the gigs are history... SIGH

Hope this all helps.

Paul

You are a real John Kinnaird walking encyclopedia Paul... thanks for all this! I'm sure many others would benefit from this info as well.

When I wrote to John and discussed the type of guitar I wanted - the tone, the applications, where it would be living in the next 5-10 years, what mattered (and what didn't), he was confident that he would build me something that would take all of that into consideration and also represent his work well. I have unequivocal trust in that, therefore a lot of these decisions will be left to him.

Happy luthier, happy Hanter!

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Originally Posted by j. Kinnaird (Post 6388572)
This list makes me tired just reading it

ok no full Pablo hahaha no problemo!

Guitars44me 05-22-2020 10:06 PM

Worn out...
 
Sorry to wear you out reading, John.

John already knows all this stuff. I figure folks reading along probably don't...

As Hanter wrote above:
"When I wrote to John and discussed the type of guitar I wanted - the tone, the applications, where it would be living in the next 5-10 years, what mattered (and what didn't), he was confident that he would build me something that would take all of that into consideration and also represent his work well. I have unequivocal trust in that, therefore a lot of these decisions will be left to him."

There ya go, Hanter. Have FUN gentlemen...

Paul

Steve Kinnaird 05-23-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by j. Kinnaird (Post 6388572)
This list makes me tired just reading it

Hahaha! :roll:

He left off the pressure gauge, overhead cams, and fully tinted windows, didn't he?

Guitars44me 05-23-2020 11:25 AM

Uncle...
 
Ouch!


I will butt out now...

Was hoping to help.

Paul

j. Kinnaird 05-23-2020 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Kinnaird (Post 6389527)
Hahaha! :roll:

He left off the pressure gauge, overhead cams, and fully tinted windows, didn't he?

Yes he did as well as the autocorrect tuners, the floating frets for instantly changing modalities the kickstand and the tassels on the peghead.

From now on, every guitar I make with the full Pablo treatment comes with a free sombrero. Whew.

(Sorry Paul, blame my brother. He got me started)

j. Kinnaird 05-23-2020 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guitars44me (Post 6389121)
Sorry to wear you out reading, John.

John already knows all this stuff. I figure folks reading along probably don't...

As Hanter wrote above:
"When I wrote to John and discussed the type of guitar I wanted - the tone, the applications, where it would be living in the next 5-10 years, what mattered (and what didn't), he was confident that he would build me something that would take all of that into consideration and also represent his work well. I have unequivocal trust in that, therefore a lot of these decisions will be left to him."

There ya go, Hanter. Have FUN gentlemen...

Paul

Heck Paul it wasn't the reading that tired me out. I fully appreciate the list, it was just thinking about doing all that stuff.
I'm good now. Full speed ahead
What's your hat size?

Hanter 05-23-2020 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by j. Kinnaird (Post 6389660)
Heck Paul it wasn't the reading that tired me out. I fully appreciate the list, it was just thinking about doing all that stuff.

Imagining having 2 Pablos on the bench John!

j. Kinnaird 05-23-2020 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanter (Post 6389721)
Imagining having 2 Pablos on the bench John!

I think so. A few energy bars and Iím up for it.

Steve Kinnaird 05-23-2020 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitars44me (Post 6389618)
Ouch!
I will butt out now...
Was hoping to help.
Paul

Hey Paul, you DID help! I hope no offense was taken? I was simply laughing at my brother's jest. And like he said, at him doing all that work.
Personally, I would like to see him do a steampunk guitar. And then all that stuff could go on it. You should at least insist on a digital readout of string pitch.

Steve

Guitars44me 05-24-2020 10:56 AM

Sombreros...
 
Mi cabesa es muy Grande!!! As a matter of fact, I have never found a single hat that fits my big head in ALL my many trips to Mexico. So I always take one with me.

Of course, one could ask John for whatever features might appeal, and skip the rest...

All those extras you guys mentioned would add weight. I did ask John if he could build in lighter than air helium chambers, but we thought it might mess with the TONE!

Steve, the sting has receded now... :)

Carry on gents.

Pablo

j. Kinnaird 05-26-2020 03:29 PM

The lost cocobolo back glued up and cut out. ( no cutaway cutout yet)

This set is so interesting. It's hard to know just what to do, if anything, down the center of the back.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Han/i-f4d..._164921-XL.jpg

Hanter 05-27-2020 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by j. Kinnaird (Post 6393001)
It's hard to know just what to do, if anything, down the center of the back.

we'll need to have a serious conversation about what to do with the back John!

j. Kinnaird 05-27-2020 12:31 PM

Tunnel 14 glued up and ready for its next life making music. There are a few mods yet to come. Its rosette time to start with.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Han/i-gxs..._142421-XL.jpg

j. Kinnaird 05-27-2020 03:20 PM

This combination might look tasty. Any opinions out there?[url=https://johnkinnaird.smugmug.com/Han/i-LddSGrP/A]https://photos.smugmug.com/Han/i-Ldd..._143501-XL.jpg[/url


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