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TomB'sox 02-22-2020 03:31 PM

Wonderful Dennis, thanks for the videos also especially the side bending, I had not seen that done in real time! I think the fill in back set is just as special as the first!

Tim McKnight 02-22-2020 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cigarfan (Post 6299651)
And voila! She is a beaut!

And little protective material and she goes back under the weight to dry overnight.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ab6371_o_d.jpg

I put a sheet of UHMW under the top with another disc over the rosette and hold those in place with a 50 lb weight. Using a water based glue and sealing the area with the UHMW plastic allows all the wood fibers in that area to swell and the rosette to dry slowly over night. This helps to produce near flawless joinery as all those pieces settle into their new home.

cigarfan 02-22-2020 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TomB'sox (Post 6299657)
Wonderful Dennis, thanks for the videos also especially the side bending, I had not seen that done in real time! I think the fill in back set is just as special as the first!

Thanks Tom. Just think Ö if you make it to McJam this year to can give this little sweetheart a spin. Hint, hint! ;)

TomB'sox 02-22-2020 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cigarfan (Post 6299728)
Thanks Tom. Just think Ö if you make it to McJam this year to can give this little sweetheart a spin. Hint, hint! ;)


Hmmmm, if I come do I get automatic entrance to the McKnight wood locker???

cigarfan 02-22-2020 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TomB'sox (Post 6299737)
Hmmmm, if I come do I get automatic entrance to the McKnight wood locker???

Yes. yes, yes! I can personally guarantee it!

But be very careful. It can have a significant effect on your wallet.

Tim McKnight 02-22-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TomB'sox (Post 6299737)
Hmmmm, if I come do I get automatic entrance to the McKnight wood locker???

Absolutely! ... but heed Cigar Fanís advice. You may bump into Eire too. Itís his favorite hang out.

cigarfan 02-22-2020 06:01 PM

As if that wasn't enough for one day we have back bracing.

The materials.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c479cc_o_d.jpg

Marking the center brace position.

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Braces glued and held in place on the go bar deck.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6cf369_o_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3e3601_o_d.jpg

A short video showing the last pieces of center brace going in place.

Back is braced and will sit overnight under go bar pressure.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...590798_o_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c9be70_o_d.jpg

cigarfan 02-22-2020 06:03 PM

Back to the sides. Here is a short video of the bent sides removed from the bender. And another short video showing a bent side set moving to lamination.

The first side set clamped on the lamination mold.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5c066b_o_d.jpg

And after drying, removed from the mold. The second set takes it's place.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c16f17_o_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3c4d6e_o_d.jpg

Fits in the body mold with very little coaxing.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...56d6d4_o_d.jpg

I am really fond of Tim's Slope Shoulder shape. More really interesting stuff to come. Stay tuned .......

jaymarsch 02-22-2020 06:41 PM

This guitar is a beauty! Love the rosette and the back. Fabulous work - both the guitar build and the pictures.
Best,
Jayne

Guitars44me 02-22-2020 11:35 PM

What Jayne said!
 
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Originally Posted by jaymarsch (Post 6299859)
This guitar is a beauty! Love the rosette and the back. Fabulous work - both the guitar build and the pictures.
Best,
Jayne

Yes, YES. Mighty boss thread and a spectacular axe coming at quite a brisk clip!

Thanks for sharing this with us all

Paul

cigarfan 02-23-2020 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by David Wren (Post 6294962)
Good grief ... that wood ... and that rosette ... this'll be just gorgeous!

David, that is the plan! Lots of fun stuff yet to be revealed.

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Originally Posted by iim7V7IM7 (Post 6294965)
Looks to be a busy year for you...:)

Indeed. I count myself blessed.

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Originally Posted by SJ VanSandt (Post 6294967)
Won't be ready in time for B.I.G. I wouldn't think. Darn! Guess I'll just have to settle for seeing your new Sexauer. ;)

Sorry Stan. Guess you will just have to be happy with just one.

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Originally Posted by Jamiejoon (Post 6294972)
Wow, that will be a magnificent rosette. Congrats, Dennis!

Thanks Jamie. Speaking of magnificent rosettes, how is your new Kinnaird treating you? Settling in?

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Originally Posted by Bill Kraus (Post 6294975)
Now I want to smell McKnights wood room!, I've got a thing for cigar and pipe tobacco, I wonder if the McKnights wood room has it beat.
That is one nice set of Sapele, should make a fine guitar, and '59 Sitka?, I like the sound of that.
I've never seen laminated piano key used for nut and saddle, is ivory as hard as bone or a bit softer?, very interesting. That will be one heck of a beautiful rosette, this will be a fun guitar to watch go together

Being a fan of cigar and pipe tobacco myself I can tell you, Tim's wood room ranks right up there.
Since I sing when I play, the fundamentals found in the Mahogany family of woods makes for a great voice companion. And I have one of Tim's MiniMac guitars sporting a '59 Sitka top. It is awesome.
As Tim and I were discussing nut and saddle, I had the same hardness question. Since warmth is a desired characteristic he mentioned trying laminated piano keys. I can't wait to give it a go.

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Originally Posted by Nemoman (Post 6294988)
Looks like this will be another killer guitar coming your way down the pipe!

Yes sir! Thanks for following along. I'm looking forward to seeing your Machinga beauty come to be. That is one incredible looking back!

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Originally Posted by Tim McKnight (Post 6294991)
Mucho Kudos to Dennis for rendering the rosette in PhotoShop. No pressure on us to try and mimic his artwork though ... YIKES!!! All kidding aside, this should be a very fun project to look forward to.

I enjoy PhotoShop work. It was fun to present you a challenge. Have to say, you knocked it out of the park. Wow, wow, wow!!!!

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Originally Posted by Haasome (Post 6294993)
Wooo Hooo, buckle up. This looks like fun!

Indeed Paul, the ride is the one of my favorite parts!

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Originally Posted by SongwriterFan (Post 6294997)
Nice rosette!

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Originally Posted by Tim McKnight (Post 6295006)
OK, nice one David. LOL. Nothing like adding to the pressure ;)

Oh, come on Tim. I know you love a challenge. And wow, did you come through!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d3d53f_o_d.jpg

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Originally Posted by Guitars44me (Post 6295028)
I believe Ivory is considerably harder than bone. The laminate piano keys are a new idea to me. Cool way to recycle...
Dennis you will be ROCKIN'
This will be fun to watch from afar
Paul

Thanks Paul. Good to have you along!

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Originally Posted by TomB'sox (Post 6295039)
Wow, congrats Dennis. That Sitka looks amazing...what perfectly straight tight grain and almost as old as me!!!
Your rendering of the rosette is stunning, should be a breeze for Tim to whip that up when he has your photo to work from!!! Go Tim Go.

Thanks Tom. That Sitka is amazing. You wouldn't believe the tap tone and sustain. I have high hopes for this one.

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Originally Posted by Eire (Post 6295232)
I have dibs on the wood room as my future place of residence, Dennis. Sorry. ;)
Beautiful piece of wood you've chosen, and that mosaic rosette is simply gorgeous -- literally a piece of art in its own right. I'll be eager to hear this baby come McJam season.

Well, when you take up residence I hope you still allow tours to come through. ;)
See you at McJam!

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Originally Posted by Kenneth Casper (Post 6295250)
Dennis, I love sapele, and you plucked a really nice set from Tim's stash! Cool rosette! You might have spent as much time mocking that up in Photoshop as Tim will spend putting it together :D. I enjoy local builds for the very reason the customer can come by the shop, touch and feel the woods, and pick out the exact woods he or she wants. Can't always happen, but nice when it does.
Enjoy the ride. Looks to be a good one!
Ken

Thanks Ken. Picking woods with Tim was definitely a highlight. There is soooo much there to look at and listen to. I love the ride!

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Originally Posted by Ukulele_Eddie (Post 6295324)
Dang, Dennis. You mean business this year with yet another fantastic build. I love that sapelle!

Yup, pulling out all the stops this year. Thanks Eddie. See you at B.I.G.er!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Steve Kinnaird (Post 6295536)
Hey Tim, you are correct sir, Dennis has impressive skills in Photoshop. In fact--sorry about this Dennis--he can do that rendering in several different colors!
And then you will have several different targets to hit. Or at least you can say, "Well, this bit of your rosette is like the 3rd drawing, this section is like the first..." And so on.
Kudos to both, it will be a wonderful guitar. Love that Sapele! (Just like Eddie said.)
Steve

Thanks Steve. I took it easy on Tim. Only gave him one version but it was a doosy! See you at B.I.G.er!!!!

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Originally Posted by Mbroady (Post 6298173)
I can stare at that rosette all day and half way through next week. Truly a work of art.

Thanks Matt. I do know what you mean. And now I have the true life version to keep me mezmerized.

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Originally Posted by ukejon (Post 6298244)
Another absolute beauty...love the wood selection

Thanks Jon. Good to have you join that party! :)

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Originally Posted by TomB'sox (Post 6298354)
I would say Mr. McKNight nailed it Dennis!

Yes sir. I could and he did!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Vaillant75 (Post 6298396)
A nice declination of your already sublime Kostal rosette! Will follow this build with great interest.
Cheers,
Tom

Hi Tom. Hang on tight cause there are many more surprising features coming.

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Originally Posted by Nemoman (Post 6298501)
Nicely executed, Tim!

WooHoo!!!! He knocked it out of the park!

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Originally Posted by Rodger (Post 6298935)
You have exquisite taste, Dennis!!
Can't wait to check this one out at lucky McJam 13!

Well, thanks Rodger. Very much looking forward to seeing you and Kathy.

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Originally Posted by SJ VanSandt (Post 6298957)
Love it, Dennis! This is going to be so gorgeous.

Thanks Stan. I think so too!

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Originally Posted by jaymarsch (Post 6299859)
This guitar is a beauty! Love the rosette and the back. Fabulous work - both the guitar build and the pictures.
Best, Jayne

Thanks for following along Jayne. Tim and Mary are quite the pair. The build impecable and the documentation complete (the flood of pics, and we all can't get enough pics, right?).

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Originally Posted by Guitars44me (Post 6300055)
Yes, YES. Mighty boss thread and a spectacular axe coming at quite a brisk clip!
Thanks for sharing this with us all
Paul

Brisk is right! Yesterday was an incredible day. As many years as I have been doing this, don't think I ever posted as many pictures in one day! Wow!

cigarfan 02-23-2020 06:21 PM

Here is a short video showing Tim cleaning up the squeeze out from side lamination.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8d1fef_o_d.jpg

Then the clean sides are joined with the neck and tail blocks.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f5831f_o_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f209b8_o_d.jpg

The side assembly is then placed in the mold and marked with chalk so Tim can see how much to sand off the rim edges.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3c5701_o_d.jpg

Measuring the depth at the neck block. That's why they call this a Slim Slope Dred.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ba8198_o_d.jpg

Addition of the kerfing is next.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...daf685_o_d.jpg

Here are a couple short videos of the kerfing being installed. Video 1 | Video 2

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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ac438c_o_d.jpg

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cigarfan 02-23-2020 06:23 PM

All kerfed ready to dry a spell.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6a43c1_o_d.jpg

Thickness sanding the top.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...374f52_o_d.jpg

After level sanding the rosette looks sharp!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...eb7e86_o_d.jpg

Measuring deflection of the top at thickness.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...07345e_o_d.jpg

Marking the guitar outline on the bracing side. Video

If you look close you can see evidence of some bearclaw in this top. It will likely be more evident under finish.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4b336a_o_d.jpg

Cutting the soundhole.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...212d1d_o_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4075b6_o_d.jpg

Now we move into a veiled part of the build. Secret sauce is in the top bracing. Here is the hide glue Tim will use.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ee7794_o_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...421493_o_d.jpg

I have a feeling things will go dark for the rest of today.

Godfather 02-23-2020 09:33 PM

WOW, WOW, WOW-WOW, WOW!

Thank you for sharing this incredible build Dennis.
Your vision, Tim's talent and Mary's watchful eye...a winning combination for sure!

Is the heel cap going to be mosaic as well?

cigarfan 02-24-2020 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Godfather (Post 6300852)
WOW, WOW, WOW-WOW, WOW!

Thank you for sharing this incredible build Dennis.
Your vision, Tim's talent and Mary's watchful eye...a winning combination for sure!

Is the heel cap going to be mosaic as well?

Thanks for following along. Actually, the heel cap will be inlaid with abalone. A nice big piece. :)


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