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Erithon 11-19-2020 12:12 PM

I heard from Jeanne yesterday that your Hoffee case is supposed to be ready in "about another week" so there's that...
(My case is due two weeks after that.)

mhw48 11-19-2020 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Erithon (Post 6554261)
I heard from Jeanne yesterday that your Hoffee case is supposed to be ready in "about another week" so there's that...
(My case is due two weeks after that.)

What is going into your Hoffee? I'd love to hear about it!

Erithon 11-19-2020 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mhw48 (Post 6554349)
What is going into your Hoffee? I'd love to hear about it!

lol we've PMed about this haha :)

Sadly not a new Franklin--it's my OM from 2004. I got it earlier this year, but it came in a real cheapo case so I reached out to Nick and Jeanne to see about getting a proper case. Something with better deflection, but also superior climate control. And that led to me ordering one with a custom paint job haha

mhw48 11-19-2020 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Erithon (Post 6554504)
lol we've PMed about this haha :)

Sadly not a new Franklin--it's my OM from 2004. I got it earlier this year, but it came in a real cheapo case so I reached out to Nick and Jeanne to see about getting a proper case. Something with better deflection, but also superior climate control. And that led to me ordering one with a custom paint job haha

Oh, OK. I thought perhaps you’d decided on another Franklin, congrats on the Hoffee!

Erithon 11-19-2020 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mhw48 (Post 6554511)
Oh, OK. I thought perhaps youíd decided on another Franklin, congrats on the Hoffee!

I wish! I'm just experiencing it vicariously through you. Your jumbo is going to be quite the guitar. I'm very excited for you.

blindboyjimi 11-20-2020 10:08 AM

Slight thread derailment deleted, but I canít wait to see the final product!

Erithon 11-20-2020 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by blindboyjimi (Post 6554980)
Sorry about the ďcheapoĒ 16 year old, discolored TKL case, but thatís what it came with. Iím glad youíre loving it enough to give it a really nice case.

One quick note, I keep 2 ďspecial casesĒ to ship my vintage guitars, a Calton and a Karura. All my other OMs as well as the 1933 OM-18, 1936 000-18 and the 1937 000-18 fit either but yours was a bit deeper than the others and would not fit. You might want to just double check the tail end vs the Hoffee specs. I think I remember yours being 4 1/4Ē. I donít know if all Nickís OMs are now that way or if for some reason yours was built a bit deeper than traditional OMs, but itís worth a 30 second check.

Hi Jim! I didn't mean that as a knock on you (just the case lol) and I'm sorry if you took it that way. You were an absolute pleasure to work with and the guitar was in even better shape than you described :)

It actually wasn't even a TKL, but some random brand called Golden Gate that sells for $79.99 new on MF. Just wasn't going to cut it for the dry winters where I am. So I saved up some more money and contacted Franklin Guitars.

Thanks for the tip on the dimensions. I just measured: 4-1/8" at the end graft. Maybe you're thinking of a different guitar? This one conforms to standard OM specs, with the typical Franklin upper bout of 11.5".

(Sorry to derail your thread, Martin!)

mhw48 11-25-2020 08:55 AM

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Last night a photo appeared on my phone...

justonwo 11-25-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mhw48 (Post 6559307)
Last night a photo appeared on my phone...

Those are always fun events. Can't wait to hear your review!

Diamondave 11-25-2020 09:26 PM

This is getting real....!!! exciting

mhw48 11-26-2020 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by justonwo (Post 6559721)
Those are always fun events. Can't wait to hear your review!

Nick gave it a brief try -- and says that the sound is really great. He was curious if there would be an appreciable different after the varnish was on the guitar, but he says it sounds the same as it did "in the white." Great separation, a bell-like quality, and LOUD. I can't wait to try it out myself.

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Originally Posted by Diamondave (Post 6559951)
This is getting real....!!! exciting

It is getting quite real. Still a few steps to go -- Nick has to address a flaw in the finish on the tail of the guitar, but inching closer! Work is suspended for the rest of the week, though, for the holiday.

Happy Thanksgiving, AGF

FormerFoodie 11-26-2020 10:47 AM

I think this is going to be one hell of a holiday gift for yourself! :D

I don't know what it is about the aesthetics of varnish finishes, but I love them!

Happy Thanksgiving! I'm sure this axe will be worth the wait!!!!! :up:

Guitars44me 12-01-2020 11:28 PM

Anticipation....
 
Hope you are having FUN even while waiting!!

Sure is cute! Yum, varnish....

Salud

Paul

mhw48 12-02-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FormerFoodie (Post 6560311)
I think this is going to be one hell of a holiday gift for yourself! :D

I don't know what it is about the aesthetics of varnish finishes, but I love them!

Happy Thanksgiving! I'm sure this axe will be worth the wait!!!!! :up:


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Originally Posted by Guitars44me (Post 6564647)
Hope you are having FUN even while waiting!!

Sure is cute! Yum, varnish....

Salud

Paul

When we decided to go ahead with the varnish, Nick warned me it would prolong the build, but I decided the wait would be worth the result. Part of the fun is the anticipation, speaking with Nick about set-backs, solutions and progress. We often end up digressing which is equally interesting.
In the meantime, to sustain my resolve, a quote from SÝren Kierkegaard :
“Most men pursue pleasure with such breathless haste that they hurry past it.”

Also, I have my Franklin Dread to play, so there's that...

mhw48 12-04-2020 08:10 AM

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At 8am Eastern time,(so 5am in Portland) Nick sent me a text and a photo:
"I don't have any new guitar strings. I'm gonna get some today, otherwise it's done.
"The guitar sounds just like it did before I painted it. Although I only had a half dead set of strings.
"I guess I'll have it for this weekend and that's bye-bye. I'm going to miss it.
"I'm still at work, I' leaving right now though."

Erithon 12-04-2020 12:25 PM

Woot! Next week is going to be fun for you, Martin. I'm excited to read your initial thoughts.

mhw48 12-09-2020 07:39 PM

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"Open This End," but not yet! It's 34 degrees outside, so the box will remained closed for now so that its contents can slowly acclimate to indoor temperatures. Next the case comes out of the box and continues to warm up, and then!

hotroad 12-09-2020 08:02 PM

This creation is just waiting to explode with sound. I love the big/skinny shape. She is going to punch out notes like a piano on steroids. Not sure what type of music you play, but I do a lot of flatpicking and this one would shine. Congrats on your taste and patience.

mhw48 12-10-2020 11:22 AM

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I took the guitar out around 11pm last night, after waiting about 7 hours. It looks amazing! I don't know what the physics behind it is, but the varnish looks "deep", even though it's actually a thinner coat than the lacquer Nick usually puts on. The amber color it gives the wood is really beautiful, the top is the color of a 30 year old guitar. And it smells good!

I only tried it out a little bit last night, but it was late and I was exhausted from a long day -- so exhausted that my fingers felt like rubber and I could barely play -- so I only really tested it out this morning.

I got a text from Nick this morning at 10:46 (so 7:46am his time), saying :"I have a horror movie going on in my head, you open the case and you hated it and you string it up, it sounds like crap and then I'm a real conman."
I had texted Nick yesterday early evening to let him know the guitar had arrived and that I was letting it slowly warm up before taking it out. Then shortly after I briefly looked at the guitar, I conked out and went to sleep.
Nick was obviously worried all night when I didn't get back to him after I checked out the guitar. So I texted Nick back that the guitar is beautiful and I really like the sound.
"That's good, I can go to sleep in peace."

The guitar sounds as fantastic as it looks. Throughout the past months I kept trying to imagine what the sound would be like, but the sound in my head was my Franklin Dread. The Jumbo is different. It has a lot of sparkle and presence as well as a strong bass. The Dread is mahogany and the notes are more fundamental and woody while the jumbo has the characteristics of a rosewood: lots of overtones and an almost bell-like ring. (And it really rings!) It's quite balanced across the strings and up the neck. It has the sensitivity and great trebles of an OM, but with really piano-like bass.
It also sounds new, although I'm not exactly sure how to quantify that, and I'm curious to see how it opens up.

mhw48 12-10-2020 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hotroad (Post 6571710)
This creation is just waiting to explode with sound. I love the big/skinny shape. She is going to punch out notes like a piano on steroids. Not sure what type of music you play, but I do a lot of flatpicking and this one would shine. Congrats on your taste and patience.

Very much like a piano, a grand piano! I mostly play finger style, and it works really well for that too.

4mykey 12-10-2020 05:21 PM

Glad you like it! When I visited Nick to commission my OM this summer, he showed me your guitar and I was really impressed with it. I'm normally not a jumbo fan, but yours has excellent balance. Very even across the registers. And it looks beautiful to boot! I love the rosette! Enjoy getting to know it! Cheers.

iim7V7IM7 12-10-2020 06:48 PM

Congratulations on your new Franklin...:up:. I have had my OMc from Nick for almost two years now and like yours it was great from the get go, but it and it just keeps getting better and better...:)

Diamondave 12-10-2020 07:16 PM

EPIC....!!!!! Congrats

mhw48 12-11-2020 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 4mykey (Post 6572485)
Glad you like it! When I visited Nick to commission my OM this summer, he showed me your guitar and I was really impressed with it. I'm normally not a jumbo fan, but yours has excellent balance. Very even across the registers. And it looks beautiful to boot! I love the rosette! Enjoy getting to know it! Cheers.

It must have been really interesting to visit Nick’s workshop. Someday, when travel is possible again, I want to get to Portland and see where Nick works his magic. Speaking of magic, Nick does seem to have managed to make this guitar a big OM in terms of how it sounds. I look forward to hear about your OM.

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Originally Posted by iim7V7IM7 (Post 6572543)
Congratulations on your new Franklin...:up:. I have had my OMc from Nick for almost two years now and like yours it was great from the get go, but it and it just keeps getting better and better...:)

Thank you! I imagine my Jumbo will follow in the footsteps of your OMC. That’s sort of been the case since your OMC build thread here on AGF, which got me thinking about commissioning a build with Nick and then of doing this thread.

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Originally Posted by Diamondave (Post 6572558)
EPIC....!!!!! Congrats

YES!!! And thanks!

blindboyjimi 12-11-2020 11:20 AM

Dang!!! Thatís amazing looking. Iím glad you went with that rosette like on my 1989 Franklin. I play my 2 Franklins daily and they only get better over time. Itís hard to believe but this is the worst itíll ever sound and I bet itís spectacular. Thanks for doing this thread. Iíve talked to Nick so many times over the years but now I feel like I have been to his shop. Play it in good health.

Archaic Guitars 12-11-2020 11:40 AM

Beautiful guitar youíve got there. I was tricked into thinking it was a torrified top until I read that the oil varnish deepened the color. Congrats! Do you like the feel and sound of the varnish better than you would lacquer or other more common finishes?

pegleghowell 12-11-2020 12:40 PM

What a result.The instrument is absolutely superb,I can imagine how wonderful it must sound.I love the shape..a sort of Prairie State vibe about it.Stunning.Congratulations and thank you for such an enjoyable thread.Enjoy in good health.

mhw48 12-11-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blindboyjimi (Post 6573000)
Dang!!! That’s amazing looking. I’m glad you went with that rosette like on my 1989 Franklin. I play my 2 Franklins daily and they only get better over time. It’s hard to believe but this is the worst it’ll ever sound and I bet it’s spectacular. Thanks for doing this thread. I’ve talked to Nick so many times over the years but now I feel like I have been to his shop. Play it in good health.

I’m really happy with the rosette too. I wanted something that seemed unique to the design of Franklins. Talking to Nick was half the fun! At one point he offered me a video tour of his shop, but we never got around to it.


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Originally Posted by Archaic Guitars (Post 6573015)
Beautiful guitar you’ve got there. I was tricked into thinking it was a torrified top until I read that the oil varnish deepened the color. Congrats! Do you like the feel and sound of the varnish better than you would lacquer or other more common finishes?

I really like the feel, the look (and scent) of the varnish. The sound of the varnish mainly seems to be that it doesn’t affect the sound. Nick had the guitar strung up and tried it out before the varnish went on. After the varnish was on the sound wasn’t dampened at all. The guitar is really alive, but then that's been my experience with my other Franklin that has a lacquer finish... Nick's comment was that varnish won't make a bad guitar sound better, but it should let a good guitar sound great.

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Originally Posted by pegleghowell (Post 6573049)
What a result.The instrument is absolutely superb,I can imagine how wonderful it must sound.I love the shape..a sort of Prairie State vibe about it.Stunning.Congratulations and thank you for such an enjoyable thread.Enjoy in good health.

Thank you! The thread was a lot of fun, helped me to wait patiently, and I particularly enjoyed the questions, comments and exchanges with other folks on AGF.

niko 12-11-2020 04:06 PM

Superb guitar, congratulations, and thanks for the thread, I enjoyed it very much, being myself a lucky Franklin Jumbo owner :D

mhw48 12-11-2020 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by niko (Post 6573188)
Superb guitar, congratulations, and thanks for the thread, I enjoyed it very much, being myself a lucky Franklin Jumbo owner :D

Thank you! It was a revelation to have Nick sending me photos and regularly discussing the craft and creativity involved in his building of a Franklin guitar. I hope that by offering a window into his working process, I might inspire some others to consider becoming future lucky Franklin owners!


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