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Richard Peikoff 07-11-2010 11:29 AM

Drones for Improvisation | 12 Synth Drones + 17 Tambura Drones: All Keys
 
Drones for Improvisation | 12 Synth + 17 Tambura: All Keys


Drones contain roots and 5ths only. In the case of the tambura drones the sequences are 5RRR or R555 when two choices are given for 1 tonal center. None of the drones contain thirds making them ideal for improvisational practice in any key or modal rotation.



Synth Drones: http://www.box.net/shared/1exakyhn7p

A
Ab
B
Bb
C#
C
D
E
Eb
F#
F
G


Tambura Drones: http://www.box.net/shared/e10mc3apk6

A1
A
Ab
B
Bb
C1
C#1
C#
C
D1
D
E
Eb
F
F#
G1
G



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GuitarStudent 07-13-2010 04:36 PM

These are excellent!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Peikoff (Post 2281989)
Drones for Improvisation | 12 Synth + 17 Tambura: All Keys


Drones contain roots and 5ths only. In the case of the tambura drones the sequences are 5RRR or R555 when two choices are given for 1 tonal center. None of the drones contain thirds making them ideal for improvisational practice in any key or modal rotation.



Synth Drones: http://www.box.net/shared/1exakyhn7p

A
Ab
B
Bb
C#
C
D
E
Eb
F#
F
G


Tambura Drones: http://www.box.net/shared/e10mc3apk6

A1
A
Ab
B
Bb
C1
C#1
C#
C
D1
D
E
Eb
F
F#
G1
G


rPeikoff :)



Thank You!!:D

Alex W 07-13-2010 05:09 PM

very cool. thanks for posting.

moon 07-13-2010 06:12 PM

Thanks Richard will have fun playing with them.

Richard Peikoff 07-13-2010 11:42 PM

Cool...
 


Drones can be a very useful tool for practice and improvisation and for composition as well. I also like pushing off against harmonium, bag pipes, Gregorian Chants, monks chanting aum, and more. Combine with a percussion groove: hand drums, tabla, shakers, etc. and it gives a nice edge for practicing scales, intervals, licks, chordal movements. Tambura is an ancient instrument so it brings with it some substance, and can transport you for a little while.

I'm happy to see that a few people are accessing this simple but useful offering.

rPeikoff :guitar:

Fiddleplay 08-23-2010 01:59 PM

Tambura Drones
 
Hi, Thank you for posting these Drones. I have been using the Shirdy Drones for about 6 months and they have been amazing. I am interested in adding the Tambura Drones to my studies as well.

Can you please explain the following for me so I can understand fully the tones.

Drones contain roots and 5ths only. In the case of the tambura drones the sequences are 5RRR or R555 when two choices are given for 1 tonal center. None of the drones contain thirds making them ideal for improvisational practice in any key or modal rotation.

thank you again for your sharing of valuable information.
Roland White
fiddleplay

patrickgm60 08-23-2010 03:43 PM

I checked out one of each type of drone. The synth drones can be handy for percussion practices; thanks.

One question about the tambura tracks: I couldn't detect a consistent tempo or groove; are the timing of the notes random?

Richard Peikoff 08-24-2010 04:53 PM

2 Replies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiddleplay (Post 2324151)
Hi, Thank you for posting these Drones. I have been using the Shirdy Drones for about 6 months and they have been amazing. I am interested in adding the Tambura Drones to my studies as well. Can you please explain the following for me so I can understand fully the tones.

rP:
'Drones contain roots and 5ths only. In the case of the tambura drones the sequences are 5RRR or R555 when two choices are given for 1 tonal center. None of the drones contain thirds making them ideal for improvisational practice in any key or modal rotation.'

Thank you again for your sharing of valuable information.

Roland White
fiddleplay

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Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickgm60 (Post 2324302)
I checked out one of each type of drone. The synth drones can be handy for percussion practices; thanks. One question about the tambura tracks: I couldn't detect a consistent tempo or groove; are the timing of the notes random?

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Drones for Improvisation | 12 Synth + 17 Tambura: All Keys

Drones contain roots and 5ths only. In the case of the tambura drones the sequences are 5RRR or R555 when two choices are given for 1 tonal center. None of the drones contain thirds making them ideal for improvisational practice in any key or modal rotation.


Tambura Drones: http://www.box.net/shared/e10mc3apk6

A1
A
Ab
B
Bb
C1 5RRR GCCC
C#1
C#
C R555 CGGG
D1
D
E
Eb
F
F#
G1
G

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Answer(s):

1)

This is a good article on the tuning of the tambura and the significance of the various uses with ragas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tambura. In this article two common tunings are given: 5881= 5rrR = GccC = Sol do do Do (or the Indian solfeggio: Pa sa sa Sa, the complete solfeggio being Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Dha Ni Sa=SRGMPDNS). Also given is the tuning for ragas without the use of the 5th (Pa) which is Ma sa sa Sa = 4881 = FccC.

Because I am using the drones for improvisation that is not 'bound' to a strict raga formula, the way I have them listed focuses on Roots (R) and Fifths (5) only, not Fourths; so that there are two offerings for the keys of: A, C, C#, D, and G. In addition 7 other tonal centers can be accessed: Ab, B, Bb, Eb, E, F, F# thus providing a complete set for all keys used in Western music. In Indian music it appears that the most common keys are: C, G, D, A, E, C#, G#, & Bb.

Therefore instead of seeing the Ma sa sa Sa drone of C as FccC = 4881, I have listed it as an F Drone: FccC = R555. Since Thirds are not in the drones in either perspective, improv through all the modes of any given tonal center is possible: Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, and Locrian; as well as any of the synthetic modes (rotations of non-diatonic scales, e.g. Harmonic Minor, Ascending Melodic Minor, Hungarian, Neapolitan, etc.).

Again from Wikipedia:

The seven notes of the scale (swaras), in Indian music are named shadja, rishabh, gandhar, madhyam, pancham, dhaivat and nishad, usually shortened to Sa, Ri (Carnatic) or Re (Hindustani), Ga, Ma, Pa, Dha, and Ni and written S, R, G, M, P, D, N. Collectively these notes are known as the sargam (the word is an acronym of the consonants of the first four swaras). Sargam is the Indian equivalent to solfege, a technique for the teaching of sight-singing. Sargam is practiced against a drone. The tone Sa is not associated with any particular pitch. As in Western moveable-Do solfège, Sa refers to the tonic of a piece or scale rather than to any particular pitch.

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2)

Though there is a built-in rhythm to the drones, the tempo of the raga is not based on that, so yes I would say it is random or variable, but deeply considered. At the beginning of any raga, the soloist plays or sings with just the tambura drone. This section is called the Alap: the introduction and development of the raga and its themes. When the tablas or other accompanying percussion join the soloist, then the tempo is established, as well as the meter.


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germin 10-13-2010 03:22 AM

drones
 
Hi Richard,

thank you for your synth-drones, they sound really good and it makes fun to play with them. You surely know the book of Jerry Coker, Drones for Improvisation. I tried to get it, but it seems to be no longer available. Do you have this book?

germin

Richard Peikoff 10-13-2010 09:02 PM

Drones | Reply: Germin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by germin (Post 2374467)
Hi Richard,

thank you for your synth-drones, they sound really good and it makes fun to play with them. You surely know the book of Jerry Coker, Drones for Improvisation. I tried to get it, but it seems to be no longer available. Do you have this book?

germin

Greetings Germin

I do not though I have had Coker's Complete Method... for many years. You can find it online. I'll look into it though. Thank you.

Best

rPeikoff :)

germin 10-16-2010 04:20 AM

Thanks
 
Hi Richard,

thanks for your quick replay.

germin


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