1897 Martin 0-42
 

A little over two years ago, I had asked the forum for ideas for luthiers in Seattle to help with a vintage Martin. Thanks to Mark Tossman (on a recommendation from someone here on the forum), I finally got around to having some work done last summer. Now, am finally getting around to posting some pics here.

Neck reset and a few minor repairs here and there, and she is looking pretty darn good for 122 years old. Strung up with Thomastik-Infeld John Pearse strings and sounding fantastic too! Beautiful full tone, with a shocking amount of low end for a guitar this small.

Pic of the guitar in the case shows some screws that had unfortunately been installed in the bridge at one point. Mark removed and filled, which you can see in one of the other pics.

Fuzzy picture is of the initials of Fred Martin and the date of production.

Gorgeous. Love that look, I wonder if that was an original dark top or refinished that way? Looks like it turned out great regardless.:D

Thanks! I've seen pictures of a few "pumpkin top" Martins from that era, so I think that could be the original shade. It does appear to have had a refinish at some point in its history, but it was well done.

Gorgeous guitar.

383roller, the top's color is almost certainly the result of age and exposure to UV rays in the hundred and twenty two years of its existence. For that matter, I don't recall ever seeing any Martin guitars with stained or lacquered dark finishes until the late 1920's. I don't think Martin even offered those as an option until they started to feel the pinch of competition from Gibson during the Jazz Age. This 0-42 was made earlier than that.


whm

When I'd looked into this a while back, I was surprised to find that there were apparently some darker factory finishes, which seemed to have disappeared around 1900 and then come back in the 20's, as you noted. Here's a bit of what I had found before:

http://www.vintagemartin.com/finishes.html

Still likely darkened over the years as well, as Wade noted.

Wow!
What a treasure!

Thanks for posting.

I should probably share the story on how I ended up with this guitar, too.

My wife's grandfather was an avid musician and when he passed away about 15 year ago, he had a wide variety of stringed instruments (guitar, mandolins, banjos, ukuleles).

I only met him once when my wife and I were first dating, and when he found out I played guitar, he shuffled to the other room and came back with this guitar and a mandolin, and told me "play something! play anything!" He was in his late 80's at that point but we still jammed a bit that day, me on the guitar and he on the mandolin.

When he passed away a couple years later, my father-in-law inherited the guitar and planned to give it to me some day. My father-in-law, his three siblings and none of my wife or her cousins caught the music bug, so I was the next best to "keep it in the family."

My father-in-law tucked the guitar away, and my wife and I later married and several years went by. When I later purchased a Martin OM-28 a few years ago, my father-in-law saw the guitar and said "A Martin! You know, I've been holding onto my dad's guitar for you all these years - let me dig it out of the closet for you."

Great piece of guitar and family history. Now hopefully one of my kids catches the music bug!

What a cool story. Sounds like you married into a great family.

I had absolutely no idea that Martin tinted some of their finishes prior to their introduction of shaded tops in the late twenties. Armed with that information, I take back what I wrote about the coloration of the 0-42 in question: it seems obvious now that the shellac or whatever finish was used was, in fact, tinted. Exposure to light over the years has undoubtedly darkened it somewhat, as well, but it started off with a subtle tinge of color to begin with.

Thanks for providing that link, Manbelton. I learned something new, which doesn’t occur all that frequently for me when the subject is old Martins.


Wade Hampton Miller

Lovely guitar and a great story.

The Thomastik Infeld strings sound great on these 19th century Martins.

You should get directly in touch with my friend, Robert Corwin, whose website Vintagemartin.com you're referencing.

He's always interested in cataloging more examples.

His photography is about as good as it gets.

[email protected]

HE

Isn't this what we all who play a guitar dream of hearing some day, and you lived it. Congrats on a beautiful old treasure.

Holy cow, what a treasure! And the backstory is just wonderful.

Gorgeous guitar, and the case is pretty nice too, congratulations.

Oh my! That is just a gorgeous piece of history right there. I would love to own something like that.

Whatever you do, do NOT loan it out to Quentin Tarantino for a movie!!!

This 1895 0-28 has a "dark tint" top original finish. It's a natural, less refined (bleached) shellac color.

Looks like yours was finished with the same shellac supply.

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So gorgeous and a wonderful story. Thanks for sharing.

Thanks! That does look to be the same color.

LOL - nearly comical understatement, especially considering this forum, and his history.

Wade,

They are fairly rare, but I've seen a couple and restored one bought from the "As-Is" inventory from Gruhn's a few years ago. It's an 1893 0-28.

A few pics:

https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...1&d=1556905657

https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...1&d=1556905657

https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...1&d=1556905657

https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...1&d=1556905657

https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...1&d=1556905657

https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...1&d=1556905657

Here’s my 1893 0-28 in the usual finish for comparison. It’s obviously darkened with time but is still much lighter than the pumpkin stain.

I have been seeing older Martins with the white (?) bridge. Are these painted, and why white?

elephant ivory, optional on some styles, standard on others depending on year

Fantastic guitar and a fantastic-er story! Glad it stayed in the family. It truly is a stunner. I owned a 1907 0-18 (adi/braz) and had it restored by Dennis Berck. Like yours, meant for gut-strings, so settled on the Thomastik-Pearse strings as a compromise, given their low tension. Great strings. Wish I had that one back.

Austin

Really cool project with a great story!

FYI: those are actually the initials of Frank Henry Martin. He signed many instruments from this period. Here's his initials on my 1898 Style 3 mandolin:
https://i.imgur.com/k2l8kUwl.jpg

Jimmy, thanks for all that. That restored guitar looks great.

I've known about "pumpkin finish" or "pumpkin top" Gibson mandolins since I was in my twenties, but never realized that there were pumpkin finish Martins, as well.



Thanks again.


Wade Hampton Miller

Beautiful. Just don't let Kurt Russell near it.

Ya done good. Your wife’s grandfather has to looking down with a great big old smile on his face. Now THAT is an heirloom guitar. Don’t let her go.

Thank you! Yes, Frank H. Martin is correct.

Wow! absolutely stunning. Something very very special about a martin rosewood 12fretter. Love the original coffin case too!