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magirus 12-01-2019 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Hatcher (Post 6223868)
I have the sides pretty well set with the Spanish Cedar support wood in place for the arm bevel and the cut-away bevel. I'm careful to hollow these supports out some to save weight and air volume. This theoretically also helps with bass response. Of course, I have no way to test that so like many things on a guitar I'll put it in the best practices category. In any case, it saves weight and body air volume which is what I want and even though it's on the inside I think it looks cool.
I do have to say that if as builders we only did things that could be absolutely proven, guitars would sound like crap and would stay that way! :) M


That's beautiful craftsmanship. :)

Mark Hatcher 12-01-2019 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by magirus (Post 6225846)
That's beautiful craftsmanship. :)

Thanks magirus!

BBWW 12-03-2019 08:18 PM

I've always loved what you do with this wood Mark. So fun to watch from afar! Please keep posting photos and updates.

Mark Hatcher 12-04-2019 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BBWW (Post 6228656)
I've always loved what you do with this wood Mark. So fun to watch from afar! Please keep posting photos and updates.

Thanks BBWW. There’s plenty more to come! I’ve been doing a lot on the brace work and am working out the flourishes for the rosette and bevels.

Mark

Lonzo 12-04-2019 08:15 AM

A piece of art
 
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Originally Posted by magirus (Post 6225846)
That's beautiful craftsmanship. :)

I completely agree.. and those proportions and ratios... havent measured it.. but it must be **** close to the „golden ratio“ .. at least to my gusto..
pls keep them coming Mark :o)

Mark Hatcher 12-04-2019 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonzo (Post 6228969)
I completely agree.. and those proportions and ratios... havent measured it.. but it must be **** close to the „golden ratio“ .. at least to my gusto..
pls keep them coming Mark :o)

Thanks Lonzo! More will be coming. I'll be closing up the body shortly and it will start looking like a guitar soon.

Mark

Mark Hatcher 12-06-2019 11:01 AM

Update Pictures
 
Here are a couple progress pictures. I have the back braced and voiced. The back is being glued on:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d3bf2c8c_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5c072d26_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...79fe0ed9_c.jpg

More to come!
Mark

Mark Hatcher 12-07-2019 10:23 AM

The Body
 
Here is the first picture of the body with the back attached and trimmed:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c986d225_c.jpg

It has a wide of Naptha to help show color

M

doodahdoug 12-07-2019 10:30 AM

Greta Tree
 
Beautiful work Mark. The tortise shell figuring on this Tree set is stunning.

Nemoman 12-07-2019 01:27 PM

Incredible!

Thais promises to be one amazing guitar...

emmsone 12-08-2019 06:38 AM

Mark,
This particular set of "The Tree" is just outrageous, even more so now you can see it as a box.
I'm pretty sure you've got it all planned out in advance but what were you planning to do with the binding? Do you have any "The Tree" binding? That with a simple black purfling line would look so cool and really let the wood do its thing. I find it interesting how much i'm liking how it's looking here without binding.

David

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Hatcher (Post 6232209)
Here is the first picture of the body with the back attached and trimmed:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c986d225_c.jpg

It has a wide of Naptha to help show color

M


SJ VanSandt 12-08-2019 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by emmsone (Post 6232869)
Mark,
This particular set of "The Tree" is just outrageous, even more so now you can see it as a box.
I'm pretty sure you've got it all planned out in advance but what were you planning to do with the binding? Do you have any "The Tree" binding? That with a simple black purfling line would look so cool and really let the wood do its thing. I find it interesting how much i'm liking how it's looking here without binding.

David

I agree with David about the binding. It's a shame you have to interrupt all of that with binding at all, though I suppose you have to for structural reasons. Something else highly figured like snakewood might keep the eye moving.

The Bard Rocks 12-08-2019 08:39 PM

I like that shot of the lattice work being glued in - the squares of the lattice are vaguely mirrored by the quilt of The Tree. Cool.

Guitars44me 12-08-2019 09:50 PM

This deserves a THIRD LOOK
 
Holy Smokes!!! This may just be the most beautiful box I've ever seen!

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmsone (Post 6232869)
Mark,
This particular set of "The Tree" is just outrageous, even more so now you can see it as a box.
I'm pretty sure you've got it all planned out in advance but what were you planning to do with the binding? Do you have any "The Tree" binding? That with a simple black purfling line would look so cool and really let the wood do its thing. I find it interesting how much i'm liking how it's looking here without binding.

David

This is calendar art!!!

And it will sing like angels, too

Paul

Mark Hatcher 12-09-2019 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by doodahdoug (Post 6232222)
Beautiful work Mark. The tortise shell figuring on this Tree set is stunning.

Thanks for commenting doodahdoug!

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Originally Posted by Nemoman (Post 6232364)
Incredible!

Thais promises to be one amazing guitar...

Thanks Nemoman. It's coming together well and I'm excited to get going on the next steps.

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Originally Posted by The Bard Rocks (Post 6233634)
I like that shot of the lattice work being glued in - the squares of the lattice are vaguely mirrored by the quilt of The Tree. Cool.

Thanks Bard! I see what you are saying there. I'd like to say I planned it that way :)

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Originally Posted by Guitars44me (Post 6233694)
Holy Smokes!!! This may just be the most beautiful box I've ever seen!

This is calendar art!!!

And it will sing like angels, too

Paul

Thanks Paul, I believe it will!

Mark

Mark Hatcher 12-09-2019 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmsone (Post 6232869)
Mark,
This particular set of "The Tree" is just outrageous, even more so now you can see it as a box.
I'm pretty sure you've got it all planned out in advance but what were you planning to do with the binding? Do you have any "The Tree" binding? That with a simple black purfling line would look so cool and really let the wood do its thing. I find it interesting how much i'm liking how it's looking here without binding.

David

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Originally Posted by SJ VanSandt (Post 6233356)
I agree with David about the binding. It's a shame you have to interrupt all of that with binding at all, though I suppose you have to for structural reasons. Something else highly figured like snakewood might keep the eye moving.

This body picture is a picture I often take right after I glue and trim the back. I often get comments at this stage saying how good the body looks without binding. I think it makes a good picture at this juncture but, once the neck is on and the guitar is finished I feel it ultimately looks better with the body shape framed out with a contrasting binding.

Then there is the fact that this is a really expensive back set and the old Redwood soundboard is as light as cedar and binding/purfling offers some protection against accidental bangs.

We are going with a hard Macassar Ebony binding which will blend in with the arm and cut away bevels. The hard Ebony helps fend off a hit. The purfling is softer woods which act as shock absorbers so a hit isn't just transferred into the back side and top woods. The more vulnerable top is typically protected by using even more purfling lines.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5e947df6_c.jpg

Here are the four book matched binding strips with the black-maple-black purfling lines that will be on the sides:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5c4011dc_b.jpg

And the top gets seven purfling lines which are black-maple-black-mahogany-black-maple-black:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7db7c13b_c.jpg

I like the color of the binding which goes well with and will bring out the streaking on the top.

All of the Macassar trim, bevels, rosette, the fretboard, and the bridge are cut from the same board.

The dark bevels/rosette will also serve as a contrasting background for the flourishes we have planned.

Thanks for following along!
Mark

emmsone 12-09-2019 04:44 PM

I wasn't implying not to use a binding, i just thought a matching binding would keep The Tree "right there" in your view and any framing would be done with the purfling lines.
You're right though (as usual on aesthetics matters), the Macassar binding will set off that redwood top and would bring the top into it better than a matched binding would. The colour of the Macassar sits in nicely. I often forget about using Macassar for bindings.

Also, when there is going to be a bevel, my matched binding idea also becomes a bit more awkward in its inclusion.

I really like the 7 piece with mahogany top pufling, thats going to look sweet!

David

Mark Hatcher 12-09-2019 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmsone (Post 6234448)
I wasn't implying not to use a binding, i just thought a matching binding would keep The Tree "right there" in your view and any framing would be done with the purfling lines.
You're right though (as usual on aesthetics matters), the Macassar binding will set off that redwood top and would bring the top into it better than a matched binding would. The colour of the Macassar sits in nicely. I often forget about using Macassar for bindings.

Also, when there is going to be a bevel, my matched binding idea also becomes a bit more awkward in its inclusion.

I really like the 7 piece with mahogany top pufling, thats going to look sweet!

David

I'm sorry emmsone, I just generalized right over your post.

Thanks,
Mark

Lonzo 12-10-2019 03:10 PM

no text..
 
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5c4011dc_b.jpg


.. at a loss of words.

:cool:

Mark Hatcher 12-11-2019 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonzo (Post 6235352)

Thanks for commenting Lonzo. The guitar is coming along well!

Mark

redir 12-16-2019 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Hatcher (Post 6232209)
Here is the first picture of the body with the back attached and trimmed:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c986d225_c.jpg

It has a wide of Naptha to help show color

M

Good lord that is lovely. It looks like a delicious cake and I just want to eat it :D

I'd swear that would look awsome without binding too.

Mark Hatcher 12-17-2019 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by redir (Post 6240658)
Good lord that is lovely. It looks like a delicious cake and I just want to eat it :D

I'd swear that would look awsome without binding too.

Thanks redir!

I've been working on the rosette and the Holly and Maple flourish inlay design.
Lot's of very fine (and delicate) line work on this one!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e0bdabce_c.jpg

Mark

DanR 12-17-2019 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Hatcher (Post 6241891)

That is fantastic! I've said it before that your work seems to resonate perfectly with my aesthetic taste.

Nemoman 12-17-2019 04:27 PM

Wow--very intricate indeed!

So is that like an abstract dragonfly?

It's cool whatever it is!

Mark Hatcher 12-17-2019 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanR (Post 6241967)
That is fantastic! I've said it before that your seems to resonate perfectly with my aesthetic taste.

Thanks DanR, and thanks for commenting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemoman (Post 6241972)
Wow--very intricate indeed!

So is that like an abstract dragonfly?

It's cool whatever it is!

Thanks Nemoman, I didn't intend for it to be an abstract anything. Overall, the woods on this guitar are dark. The intent was to do some lighter contrasting decorative elements. I wanted the design to be free flowing to emulate the fantastic figure of the guitar's top and body woods.

There will be more of this type of flourish on the arm bevel and likely on the cut away access bevel.

Thanks for commenting!
Mark

theEdwinson 12-17-2019 07:56 PM

Mark, every time I look at your posts, with the stunning guitars, so beautifully photographed, I'm just struck with awe and admiration.
I just took a tour through your new website, and it's just as beautiful and inspiring as your guitars.
Raucous applause!

Ukulele_Eddie 12-17-2019 09:09 PM

Wow, what a gorgeous set!!! Will be something special!!

I have a rather special tenor uke built from an exceptional set of tortoise shell quilt from The Tree (see my avatar). It is my pride and joy! You'd think I built it, LOL.

Mark Hatcher 12-18-2019 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by theEdwinson (Post 6242161)
Mark, every time I look at your posts, with the stunning guitars, so beautifully photographed, I'm just struck with awe and admiration.
I just took a tour through your new website, and it's just as beautiful and inspiring as your guitars.
Raucous applause!

Thanks! It great to see you back up and posting here on AGF. I appreciate your comments! Thanks for mentioning my website. I did it myself which was a larger undertaking than I anticipated but, I’m glad it finally came together.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ukulele_Eddie (Post 6242205)
Wow, what a gorgeous set!!! Will be something special!!

I have a rather special tenor uke built from an exceptional set of tortoise shell quilt from The Tree (see my avatar). It is my pride and joy! You'd think I built it, LOL.

Thanks Ukulele_Eddie! I imagine The Tree makes a wonderful ukulele tonewood. A luthier brings his skills and creativity to building an instrument he is proud of.
An artist brings his skills and creativity to playing an instrument he is proud of.
Makes sense to me!

Mark

Ukulele_Eddie 12-21-2019 08:36 PM

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Don't see how to delete a post.

Mark Hatcher 12-23-2019 09:23 AM

Side Soundport
 
We're going with a side soundport and will be doing an oval shape. Here I am installing the Macassar Ebony binding and black-Maple-black purfling. This will be similar to the body binding and purfling:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3411c060_b.jpg

Mark


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