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cigarfan 03-25-2017 10:45 AM

Peghead almost ready for trip to see Larry ...
 
More work on the neck and peghead. Steve is leveling the back of the peghead and bringing it to the desired thickness. Second photo has the backplate veneers added. That's one juicy backplate!

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3827/...f97d4d_o_d.jpg

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2904/...a607ec_o_d.jpg

This last shot for today shows Ryan bending the Ebony bindings.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2853/...4fcb46_o_d.jpg

TomB'sox 03-25-2017 12:10 PM

Coming right along Dennis....not to poke a hornet's nest, but does this neck have to be shipped out for the torch inlay on the headstock?

cigarfan 03-25-2017 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomB'sox (Post 5281555)
Coming right along Dennis....not to poke a hornet's nest, but does this neck have to be shipped out for the torch inlay on the headstock?

Yes sir. It sho nuf does!

Dave Higham 03-25-2017 01:41 PM

Looks as if the back plate's glued on with washing up liquid. Of course it's not, but what is it?

cigarfan 03-28-2017 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Higham (Post 5281673)
Looks as if the back plate's glued on with washing up liquid. Of course it's not, but what is it?

I'm not certain Dave but it looks like epoxy to me (you know ... the mix together 2 part kind). Maybe Steve or Ryan will weigh in.

nacluth 03-28-2017 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigarfan (Post 5284842)
I'm not certain Dave but it looks like epoxy to me (you know ... the mix together 2 part kind). Maybe Steve or Ryan will weigh in.

Thanks Dave for checking the thread out and cigarfan's right. It's a two part epoxy. I guess in the clamping process some air got inside the glue and it's trying to foam out - or it might have hydrophobia.

Steve Kinnaird 03-28-2017 11:09 AM

No, Dave is right. Dawn Ultra, for Dennis deserves the best on this guitar.

Actually, my thoughts ran along this line, that if this neck is lost in transit, at least we won't have lost more of that too-expensive epoxy.
Mahogany and Ebony and Bloodwood grow on trees and are always so underfoot.
But this glue...sheesh! We can't be slathering it around here and there willy nilly as if it were replaceable.
And then, see, when Dennis becomes weary of this backplate (as all guitarists eventually do) he can gently glide it off and replace it with something else.
Just replace it with more Dawn as per factory specs.

I hope this helps...

P.S.-- disregard Ryan's nonsense.

cigarfan 03-28-2017 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Kinnaird (Post 5285317)
No, Dave is right. Dawn Ultra, for Dennis deserves the best on this guitar.

Actually, my thoughts ran along this line, that if this neck is lost in transit, at least we won't have lost more of that too-expensive epoxy.
Mahogany and Ebony and Bloodwood grow on trees and are always so underfoot.
But this glue...sheesh! We can't be slathering it around here and there willy nilly as if it were replaceable.
And then, see, when Dennis becomes weary of this backplate (as all guitarists eventually do) he can gently glide it off and replace it with something else.
Just replace it with more Dawn as per factory specs.

I hope this helps...

P.S.-- disregard Ryan's nonsense.

Me thinks Steve has been working too hard on recreating this neck and peghead! :ha::ha::ha::ha:;)

cigarfan 03-28-2017 03:21 PM

The way we were ...
 
Once Steve has ramped the slots for strings I believe we are back to where we were before the USPS stepped in. This neck/peghead will shortly be making it's way to Larry while we all hold our breath!

The famous Kinnaird peghead shape.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3844/...e26d45_o_d.jpg

Peghead sideview. This is going to look so good under finish with those Alessi tuning machines attached. Oh yeah!

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3722/...8ca809_o_d.jpg

Drilling the tuner holes.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3857/...69485d_o_d.jpg

Routing the slots.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3671/...408ff7_o_d.jpg

Routed for binding and ready to have the string ramps cut (and an all-wood torch inlaid).

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2942/...237af2_o_d.jpg

TomB'sox 03-28-2017 03:38 PM

Looking good so far...of course so did the first one...(sorry could not resist).

Steve Kinnaird 03-28-2017 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TomB'sox (Post 5285678)
Looking good so far...of course so did the first one...(sorry could not resist).

Ugh...let's speak of other things. Like: how odd it is to do a duplicate neck--especially so very close together. Crazy practice perhaps, but we always try to vary the neck on each guitar. Slightly, perhaps, but changes nonetheless. But to expend effort to make the same thing is a bit unique for us.

Larry did ask what we would do IF the original turns up somehow? Probably build another guitar for Dennis! :D:D:D

(Someone pick up Dennis from the floor)

cigarfan 03-29-2017 06:05 AM

Actually, that might be nice. To get a totally reworked body to go with the recreated neck. Two geetars for the price of one ... how could I go wrong?

drplayer 03-29-2017 06:15 AM

Nice shots! Fun thread to follow...looks to be an awesome build!

Steve Kinnaird 03-29-2017 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigarfan (Post 5286232)
Actually, that might be nice. To get a totally reworked body to go with the recreated neck. Two geetars for the price of one ...how could I go wrong?

Somebody pick ME up off the floor please.......

cigarfan 03-29-2017 12:35 PM

Bag that puppy up!
 
No worries ... Steve has recovered. We haven't picked out the back and sides for the second guitar yet but I'm sure he will select something good! ;)

End of day yesterday had the peghead bound and purfled (if that's even a word?), nut slot is cut and the slots ramped. Time to put our trust in a shipper. Hmmm ... who may that be? Hmmm!

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3698/...797a08_o_d.jpg

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2899/...a630bb_o_d.jpg

cigarfan 04-07-2017 05:54 AM

Second trip to Larry for the torch ...
 
For the second time around the neck/peghead is off to Larry to inlay the torch. I am happy to report it has been successfully delivered (thank you FedEx)!

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2860/...d5f8f0_o_d.jpg

Meanwhile, back at the ranch ... work continues. Here Steve adds the soundport binding.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2867/...602a40_o_d.jpg

A glimpse of the soundport from the side. The darker areas on the sides are the remnants of some protective shellac.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2933/...eca0ab_o_d.jpg

And the body begins to come together. Here the back is attached to the sides. I love this high-tech approach.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2893/...5333bb_o_d.jpg

I am off to the Artisan Guitar Show this weekend. I hope to get some good photos and video from there and post over on that thread.

TomB'sox 04-07-2017 06:10 AM

Looking good Dennis, that back and side wood is so incredibly beautiful....color me jealous.

Wish I could have made it this weekend, was going to take today off, instead ended up needing to work today AND tomorrow morning!!!! Go figure. Have fun.

cigarfan 04-11-2017 04:52 PM

Rosette anyone ???
 
Steve and I have been talking about my rosette. We want it to fit nicely with the fretboard TOL and peghead torch which is quite the challenge. Steve came up with an awesome idea to use some swirly things from the fretboard and and element or two from the torch inlaid in a center ring of Ebony surrounded inside and out by half herringbone Verawood rings to match the purfling we talked about for the top. The wood for the rosette elements will match those used in the fretboard and peghead, namely both shades of Madi, Bloodwood and green tinted Maple. Being the Photoshop crazy person I am, I worked up this mockup.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2885/...6dd7c1_o_d.jpg

So Ryan has the base setup with the center Ebony ring and the bwb with teflon spacer in position for the Verawood. I think this will be the ticket.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2888/...942d9d_o_d.jpg
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2866/...6fb676_o_d.jpg

TomB'sox 04-11-2017 06:16 PM

Holy cow Dennis, that will be awesome. You missed your calling, you should be a graphic design artist or something....that looks amazing. Good Luck Steve and Ryan in getting it done to look like that!!!! AND I love the Kinnaird fret board flourish at the end too. That adds so very much.

Nemoman 04-11-2017 06:57 PM

Great collaboration you guys--that rosette will look schweeet will the other elements you have going on!

j. Kinnaird 04-12-2017 11:59 AM

Inspirational
 
That looks great! It gives me ideas. Thanks for the look and good luck bro getting that cut out and inlayed.

Montesdad 04-12-2017 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigarfan (Post 5301815)

~ ~ ~ Wow !!! ~ ~ ~

ukejon 04-12-2017 12:37 PM

Most impressive looking indeed!

Steve Kinnaird 04-12-2017 08:19 PM

We kicked around the idea at work today of simply printing Dennis' rendering on high quality paper, and gluing it around the sound hole. That way, it would look exactly as Dennis drew it.
Can you say découpage? (Can you spell it?!)
Anyway, it could get scratched up with vigorous playing and simply be replaced.

Always looking out for you, Dennis!

Guitars44me 04-12-2017 09:43 PM

Awesome
 
What a monster rosette! Dennis you rock the photoshop app!

This will be so fine....

And it is a Kinnaird, so we all know the sound will be astonishing, too!

Nice going guys

Cheers

Paul

TomB'sox 04-13-2017 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Kinnaird (Post 5303277)
We kicked around the idea at work today of simply printing Dennis' rendering on high quality paper, and gluing it around the sound hole. That way, it would look exactly as Dennis drew it.
Can you say découpage? (Can you spell it?!)
Anyway, it could get scratched up with vigorous playing and simply be replaced.

Always looking out for you, Dennis!

If you put enough layers of shellac on there, it would hold up....go for it...;) I have stuff my Aunt did years ago and it has held up fine....a nice flower border it had too if you would like to consider that add on....

Marcus Wong 04-13-2017 07:12 AM

Woah... you could have fooled me with that photoshopped rosette! Now the pressure is on Steve to make sure he meets that standard ;)

Steve Kinnaird 04-13-2017 07:43 AM

Ah, no pressure...

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

cigarfan 04-13-2017 03:53 PM

I trust what Steve and Ryan work up on this will be great. Steve dreamed up the rosette design. I just used some technology to make a pretty picture they can use to visualize. The guitar looks awesome so far. There is no reason to believe it doesn't get even better from here!

cigarfan 04-15-2017 09:06 AM

Safe at home in Texas ...
 
Received a long awaited email from my good friends at Kinnaird Guitars last night! The finished TOL fretboard and torch peghead are in their hands. Fantastic news! And WoW ... Wow ... Wow did Larry knock this one out of the park! Even in these quickie photos you can see the incredible detail work. Can't wait this baby up close.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2890/...c2629d_o_d.jpg

This torch is better than I imagined and under finish will really pop against the Ebony.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3927/...faf75a_o_d.jpg

And as I knew they would, they Texas Kinnairds have begun to amaze with their work on our rosette.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3939/...2a2620_o_d.jpg

I am charged up on this build. Exceeding my hopes on so many levels. Tremendous!


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