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fitness1 12-28-2016 05:57 PM

Poor man's (that's me!) Carvin AG300
 
A few months back I picked up one of those little Acoustic AG30 8 inch two way amps and was quite surprised by the richness and tonal capabilities of it. Of course I wasn't getting the low end I'd been used to with having full PA systems for the last 35 years.

A few days ago an Acoustic B20 bass amp (12" driver) popped up on the local Craigslist for 70.00 and I started wondering what it would be like if I ran that off the other channel on my mixer and used it like a powered subwoofer.

I just got back from picking it up - tweaked both amps a bit, rolling off the low end on the AG30 and attenuating the high end on the B20. With very little effort I was able to get an incredible tone - I run pure mini's on my guitars with a Blue Encore 300 (and Encore 100 on the vocals)

I'm sitting here shaking my head at how great this little rig sounds!!!

Who needs to spend 600 on the Carvin???

AG30 - 75.00
B20 - 70.00
Alto ZMX862 mixer - 40.00.

Hmmm......:roll:

http://i63.tinypic.com/e9t3e8.jpg

jricc 12-28-2016 09:06 PM

Ingenuity! Cool for u!
Seems like it would sound good. Are u running each amp into the Alto outputs?

Towzer 12-28-2016 09:10 PM

Vocals
 
do you sing or just play acoustic ?
Would be interesting to hear how the vocals effects are with it

fitness1 12-28-2016 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jricc (Post 5173091)
Ingenuity! Cool for u!
Seems like it would sound good. Are u running each amp into the Alto outputs?

Yes - main outputs (L and R) to each amp.
Both amps are "yawning" between 10 and 11 o'clock on the dial and it sounds extremely full and rich.
I've always wanted a true 3 way system (which this is not) but this is as close as I'll probably get;)

fitness1 12-28-2016 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Towzer (Post 5173098)
do you sing or just play acoustic ?
Would be interesting to hear how the vocals effects are with it

I sing a lot - I always tell people I'm a singer who just happens to accompany himself on guitar.

The AG30 is the only one with effects - so there's just a touch of reverb on that amp. Bass frequencies don't carry much reverb anyway.

I actually did the initial tweaking with vocals only, then grabbed the Charis. It was 90% of the way there already - very little adjusting required after that.

Fret-O'File 12-29-2016 10:52 AM

Hey Todd, which pick-ups do you have in your guitars?

Towzer 12-29-2016 11:15 AM

amp
 
is there much noise off these amps - in case you need for the studio? Im assuming not as quiet as the revered AER

fitness1 12-29-2016 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fret-O'File (Post 5173553)
Hey Todd, which pick-ups do you have in your guitars?

Pure Mini's.....only thing I'll ever use again.

fitness1 12-29-2016 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Towzer (Post 5173587)
is there much noise off these amps - in case you need for the studio? Im assuming not as quiet as the revered AER

Yes - if you put your head right in front, there is some noise. You even get that with relatively expensive powered speakers though.

I'm not sure why you would need an amp for an acoustic instrument in the studio, though? I guess if you were wanting to record an acoustic with some effects?

briggleman 12-29-2016 11:37 AM

Possible to get us a picture of the hookups and settings into the mixer?

fitness1 12-29-2016 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by briggleman (Post 5173616)
Possible to get us a picture of the hookups and settings into the mixer?

Channel 1 - Blue Encore 100 dynamic (vocal mic)
Channel 1 - Blue Encore 300 condenser (guitar mic)
Channel 3 - mono line for guitars (K&K pure minis)

Main output (L and R) to each Acoustic amp

http://i63.tinypic.com/m7ciea.jpg


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