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Bruce Sexauer 05-25-2020 03:34 PM

Madrone/Adi Flamenco Hybrid
 
I first saw a real flamenco guitar nearly 50 years ago. I have made several serious attempts at making in the last few years, and I am very happy with my results. I have been a bit hard core about the peg tuners, which I hand carve and fit carefully, and which work far better than anyone expects when they dare to try them. And that is the problem, players are a bit shy about trying them. So I am making this one with machine tuners.

The tonewood is from a Madrone I cut down 25 years ago in Monte Rio, CA surely it is ready by now?

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/Madrone1.jpg

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/Madrone2.jpg

The top is American red spruce, sometimes called Adi, and while many feel it is too robust for nylon strings, I have a solution for than (use less) expect it will contribute nicely to what I want to hear from this guitar. I chose a very colorful top:

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/joinedtop.jpg

Loggerenguitars 05-25-2020 11:35 PM

Hi Bruce, I'm sorry you won't be doing the pegs...I'm fascinated by them!!

I can't wait to see this build!

Regards
Hentie

Bruce Sexauer 05-26-2020 09:52 AM

I have several of my own guitars, most of which are in the shop and get played in rotation, though there are favorites. I have just one house guitar, which is next to my dining table. It is my Catalpa/white spruce flamenco, and probably gets as much play as all my other guitars combined! It sports my first set of hand carved pegs, Rendered in Jatoba. I made it/them 5 years ago, and they continue to work as well as the day I put the strings on, which is very well indeed (if I don’t say so myself). The guitar tunes as if there is magic involved, the pegs just seem to land on the exact note targeted Somehow. It is ears and muscle memory, I know that, but it seem effortless. I think the tuning process on a wood peg flamenco is an extension of musicianship, and a very good thing.

Loggerenguitars 05-26-2020 10:46 PM

I am really glad to learn of your positive outcome regarding the pegs!

To say the least, I'm currently building my first nylon string "flamenco" style guitar out of local timbers/englemann spruce, and am strongly considering giving the traditional pegs a go..also hoping for the successful outcome you had!

Bruce Sexauer 05-29-2020 05:44 PM

I have cut 33 of these little Cuban mahogany S's, and will turn them into a rosette. They are about 3/8" tall.

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/ssss1.jpg

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/ssss2.jpg

Bruce Sexauer 05-30-2020 01:58 PM

Here's the rosette I made from the many S's:

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/rosette1.jpg

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/rosette2.jpg

ceciltguitar 05-31-2020 11:03 AM

This will be an interesting guitar. I look forward to following your posts about this guitar.

Did you start the guitar the same day that you made the first post (05.25)?

Bruce Sexauer 05-31-2020 08:00 PM

I joined the back a couple of weeks ago, not yet realizing when or what I was going to build. I have been chomping at the bit to build a nylon strung guitar, and orders being the rare thing (I;ve made at least 9, only three commissioned), I thought I run with this idea. I had been thinking to build a serious BRW classical as they seem to sell if I have one, but I personally like (prefer) to play a flamenco style guitar.My last serious classical had a 53 mm nut, whereas my Flamenco's have 49 mm, usually. What a difference! And a lower action and much lighter build. My last three weigh between 2.4 and 2.6 lb each.

Otherwise, so far, this thread is real time. Today, I chose a neck black and sawed out the profile. I have hoped I had a piece of Madrone to use, but the widest stock was 2" and I don't want to deal with laminating up the blank, so Honduran mahogany.Made the fingerboard yesterday from ebony, and bound it. I think I went with 648mm scale.

Bruce Sexauer 06-01-2020 05:36 PM

The top in is the go-bar deck receiving soundhole reinforcement and both transverse braces. I have inlaid two 1/8 x 7/16 strips of carbon-fiber into the neck, cut the slots to receive the sides, and created the (modest) foot.

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/carbon.jpg

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/foot2.jpg

Bruce Sexauer 06-03-2020 11:15 AM

Bracing is in:

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/topbracing.jpg

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/backbracing.jpg

Bruce Sexauer 06-03-2020 12:09 PM

And the end blocks, one of which is the neck, are glued on:

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/blockson.jpg

Bruce Sexauer 06-03-2020 03:03 PM

The first side is bent and trimmed to fit. As you see, I do not understand the general lutherie communities obsession with molds. A lot of fuss and bother and a serious constraint on creativity for my POV.

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/side1a.jpg

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/side1b.jpg

Bruce Sexauer 06-03-2020 07:25 PM

The Madrone/Adi guitar now has the peone in which attach the sides to the top.

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/peone.jpg

SBalderrama 06-04-2020 08:53 AM

looks nice. Somebody makes planetary pegs that look like traditional pegs also, kindof the best of both words.

Bruce Sexauer 06-04-2020 02:27 PM

The back will likely go on before the day is done. It is in the go-bar deck having "marriage strips" glued on. These strips insure against seam failure, and this guitar is a four piece back, so it has 3 seams.

http://mojoluthier.com/LP20/301/readyforback.jpg


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