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MARIOS F 01-10-2021 06:52 AM

introduction to greek rythms-kalamatiano 7/8
 
hi guys!!check out kalamatiano rythm and try to play along..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn69...=mariosfrastas

NormanKliman 01-10-2021 10:42 AM

Cool! I can reproduce it straight away but I sure as heck can't play over it.

Let's see/hear you do it!!!:D

Thanks for posting that.

MARIOS F 01-10-2021 02:29 PM

its not that hard if you "break"it to 3-2-2
for me (im from greece)its pretty easy, cause its a traditional rythm..
we know these rythms from hundrents of famous greek songs..
but many friends of mine from around the world are having a lot of trouble playing along..so thats why im upploading all of these videos..
(forgive my terrible english:D:D:D)

godfreydaniel 01-10-2021 08:26 PM

I’m confused - I only hear six beats.

NormanKliman 01-11-2021 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MARIOS F (Post 6600937)
its not that hard if you "break"it to 2-2-3

I hear 3+2+2. Which is correct? Is it a very old style?

I'm interested because flamenco has 12-beat rhythms that are similar to kalamatiano (only a little similar). One is 3+3+2+2+2 and another is 2+2+3+3+2.

Your English is good!

godfreydaniel 01-11-2021 11:40 AM

Here’s a guy playing it on a bouzouki (I think). It’s in Greek, but you can hear him play it and say it in several spots. 3-2-2:


NormanKliman 01-11-2021 12:24 PM

Ha-ha, that is so cool! Thanks for uploading that, godfreydaniel! We can’t understand a word he says (well, I can’t), but the music makes it all clear.

A friend here in Spain told me she visited Greece and found it to be a little disconcerting, because, in the right context, she understood what people were saying by observing their tone of voice, demeanor, mannerisms, etc., even though (she said) none of the words were even remotely similar to Spanish.

MARIOS F 01-12-2021 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NormanKliman (Post 6601357)
I hear 3+2+2. Which is correct? Is it a very old style?

I'm interested because flamenco has 12-beat rhythms that are similar to kalamatiano (only a little similar). One is 3+3+2+2+2 and another is 2+2+3+3+2.

Your English is good!

you can play all kind of varations
3+2+2 and 2+2+3 and sometimes 2+3+2 (the last one is rare)
but the basic and most used is 3+2+2
so you hear correct!!

MARIOS F 01-12-2021 12:37 PM

sorry guys..in my first post ive made a mistake..the basic rythm in this video is 3-2-2..i ve just corrected it..:)

NormanKliman 01-12-2021 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MARIOS F (Post 6602756)
sorry guys..in my first post ive made a mistake..the basic rythm in this video is 3-2-2..i ve just corrected it..:)

Thanks! So, can you tell us about the history of that style? I've read that there are records of some ancient Greek rhythms (ancient=thousands of years ago). There's no sheet music, of course, but there's some kind of text that indicates the combinations of long and short intervals, and some of the patterns looked similar to this one, as I recall.

MARIOS F 01-13-2021 09:11 AM

officially kalamatianos (as we know it now)started in 19th century in pelloponissos..but they have found some references in Hommer (ancient writer)for a similar dance..they were dancing in an open circle..also they have found some drawings in ancient vessels and walls which they indicate that they were dancing something very similar thousands years ago..
im going to make some videos with my guitar for all the greek rythms pretty soon..

NormanKliman 01-13-2021 11:39 AM

Hi Marios F,

That's very interesting. Thanks for uploading that and for taking the time to answer to my questions. I look forward to learning more about this.


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