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BoneDigger 10-20-2019 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by necrome (Post 6191359)
Considering the Mini Charge hasn't been out that long, it seems Fishman skimped on their battery QC :sick: I really hope this JBL Compact turns out to be good considering their Eon One Pro was pretty problematic according to buyers. More companies need to use 18650 (or better) generic batteries instead of their "proprietary" blocks because it's gets difficult to replace.

The battery is actually easy enough to find a replacement for. I found one at Batteries Plus locally with no issues. But, the whole amp has to be disassembled to get to it.

TubeG 10-20-2019 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by necrome (Post 6191359)
Considering the Mini Charge hasn't been out that long, it seems Fishman skimped on their battery QC :sick: I really hope this JBL Compact turns out to be good considering their Eon One Pro was pretty problematic according to buyers. More companies need to use 18650 (or better) generic batteries instead of their "proprietary" blocks because it's gets difficult to replace.

18650 batteries - cost is much higher then the SLA battery that Fishman is using. If building in the internal charging, it would add to the cost of amplifiers like the Fishman. Never liked having a separate charger like cameras.

DavidE 10-21-2019 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by necrome (Post 6189431)
https://youtu.be/8h4bfeFt9t8?t=441

Here's a video demo of the unit that I found, sounds loud, clean and pretty impressive!
Tried embedding with timestamp but didn't work, click on the link to go direct to the music playback :D

I can get my EON One much louder when using it as a bluetooth speaker than I can with voice and instrument. That demo is pretty useless for musicians' purposes.

Cuki79 10-22-2019 05:03 AM

Now we know the battery used...

As expected no built-in boost in the battery module (might be cheaper than Bose). I hope the voltage converter is inside the box... Or it will not be as loud when battery powered.

https://img.audiofanzine.com/image.p...hoto_id=318999

so we have inside 2x4 3.7V 3050mAh Li-ion cells

It's a zoom from Thoman a website's picture
https://thumbs.static-thomann.de/thu...542423_800.jpg
I turn the picture counter clockwise so it is easier to read

TubeG 10-22-2019 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuki79 (Post 6192506)
Now we know the battery used...

As expected no built-in boost in the battery module (might be cheaper than Bose). I hope the voltage converter is inside the box... Or it will not be as loud when battery powered.

https://img.audiofanzine.com/image.p...hoto_id=318999

so we have inside 2x4 3.7V 3050mAh Li-ion cells

If that is the battery spec, that is a very small battery capacity compare to other manufacturers. if voltage boost is used to get the 120WRMS? maybe 1-2 hours playing time a high volume, guess you need to carry spare batteries.

necrome 10-22-2019 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TubeG (Post 6193117)
If that is the battery spec, that is a very small battery capacity compare to other manufacturers. if voltage boost is used to get the 120WRMS? maybe 1-2 hours playing time a high volume, guess you need to carry spare batteries.

Definitely a disappointing start!

TubeG 10-22-2019 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by necrome (Post 6193162)
Definitely a disappointing start!

anyone have a unit yet? the battery size is definitely a concern.

Cuki79 10-22-2019 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TubeG (Post 6193117)
If that is the battery spec, that is a very small battery capacity compare to other manufacturers. if voltage boost is used to get the 120WRMS? maybe 1-2 hours playing time a high volume, guess you need to carry spare batteries.

I don't know for other manufaturers but it is similar to the Bose S1 battery
https://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/images/5/...tery_Label.jpg
Source:
https://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php...Specifications

14.4v 5500mAh

However extended low end will definitely make the battery life lower. (If it can stand the current draw...).

I think that is the reason why JBL made it easy to swap battery.

TubeG 10-23-2019 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuki79 (Post 6193306)
I don't know for other manufaturers but it is similar to the Bose S1 battery
https://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/images/5/...tery_Label.jpg
Source:
https://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php...Specifications

14.4v 5500mAh

However extended low end will definitely make the battery life lower. (If it can stand the current draw...).

I think that is the reason why JBL made it easy to swap battery.

Bose - 40WRMS - 14.4 5500mAh
JBL - 120W - almost same size battery. is the 120W is RMS or PEAK?

martingitdave 10-24-2019 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TubeG (Post 6193575)
Bose - 40WRMS - 14.4 5500mAh
JBL - 120W - almost same size battery. is the 120W is RMS or PEAK?

JBL usually quotes peak numbers. So, my assumption is about 60 watts RMS which would put it in the ball park with the Bose S1 Pro. I guess we should expect them to be similar in performance, with the JBL having a few more features and a bigger (heavier) speaker.

Kabi 10-29-2019 08:25 AM

Another similar test from a Vietnamese website - bluetooth only:

https://youtu.be/CAp0etl4yDs

If it delivers what's on paper, for me the +48V phantom, 8 band EQ, 8" woofer, plus one extra channel vs the Bose S1 are quite a difference.

Groberts 10-29-2019 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kabi (Post 6198188)
Another similar test from a Vietnamese website - bluetooth only:

https://youtu.be/CAp0etl4yDs

If it delivers what's on paper, for me the +48V phantom, 8 band EQ, 8" woofer, plus one extra channel vs the Bose S1 are quite a difference.

But in person, it seems to be not much different from a conventional 2-way PA speaker, albeit with battery power etc.

lpa53 11-03-2019 11:51 AM

I'm really interested in this as smaller amp to have when I don't want to use my old SA 220. I've looked for EON One Compact manuals on line but haven;t found any. Does anyone know where they can be found?

Regarding the effects, are they applied by first selecting a channel and then applying the desired levels for that channel only? Are all effects available for all channels?

BoneDigger 11-03-2019 12:59 PM

Still excited to see some hands on comparisons between the JBL and the Bose S1 pro.

Per Burström 11-04-2019 02:09 AM

The iOS and Android apps are now available on the stores, and they can be used in demo mode:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...jbl.eoncompact

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/jbl-co...t/id1464116044


I'm just giving them a try.

/Per


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