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LCSTAGG 09-27-2021 10:32 AM

K&K Pure Mini- Passive pickup, installed in Electric guitar?
 
Hey. I have installed the pure mini on several acoustics and liked it.

I am wondering- Has anyone heard of or used the pure mini on electric guitar installations? I had the concept of buying either one or two of the pure mini sets and splicing them in to an existing electric guitar's wiring.

Would this be plausible to do? If I had two sets, I'd have 6 contact points, could attach 3 to the bridge and the other three to the body wood near the bridge posts- Being passive, I imagine this wouldn't be too difficult to incorporate into an existing system?

I imagine the tone would be significantly more natural/warm than a piezo system for electric-

James May 09-27-2021 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LCSTAGG (Post 6819473)
Hey. I have installed the pure mini on several acoustics and liked it.

I am wondering- Has anyone heard of or used the pure mini on electric guitar installations? I had the concept of buying either one or two of the pure mini sets and splicing them in to an existing electric guitar's wiring.

Would this be plausible to do? If I had two sets, I'd have 6 contact points, could attach 3 to the bridge and the other three to the body wood near the bridge posts- Being passive, I imagine this wouldn't be too difficult to incorporate into an existing system?

I imagine the tone would be significantly more natural/warm than a piezo system for electric-

You will likely be disappointed with this approach. K&Ks and other SBTs like my Ultra Tonic need bending in order to sense signal. An electric body will not bend much at all, and the signal will be very weak and probably not all that pleasing.

I've experimented with putting these sensors in fully hollow body instruments like ES330s. They have relatively thick laminate tops, with more lamination under the saddle area. The result was as I described above. So based on that, I think a solid body would be a non-starter.

LCSTAGG 09-27-2021 12:36 PM

Can you describe what you mean by 'Bending'?

I'd guess you mean that the material is vibrating more freely? You're basically suggesting the vibration needs to be relatively violent to what a solid body would do? Or something else?

J Patrick 09-27-2021 01:40 PM

I’m pretty try sure James is referring to the flex that is inherent in acoustic guitars tops as opposed to the rigid top back or sides of an electric guitar

that does mean more vibration reaching the sensors

I know that the only poor results I’ve heard from k&k installs has been on overbuilt acoustic guitars with thick tops and bridge plates. Conversely…the most lightly built guitars that I have installed k&k’s in have produced the hottest signals with quite a bit more responsiveness and volume

LCSTAGG 09-27-2021 01:51 PM

Ok- what contact style passive acoustic solutions may be better suited to a purpose such as this? Is it down to just piezo or are there other options?

calvanesebob 09-27-2021 02:54 PM

Maybe try something like this?

https://www.fishman.com/product-seri...ickup-systems/


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