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PTony 02-04-2019 03:35 PM

Gretsch...NOW WITH PICS!
 
Hello Friends!

I wondered if anyone has played, or owns, a Gretsch G5230T Electromatic Jet FT? I’ve been eyeing the Airline Silver. I’ve read their build quality is good. But, no one in my immediate area has any of these in stock so I welcome any input. Thanks in advance.

Gmountain 02-04-2019 03:42 PM

I have a 5420T in Fairlane Blue. Really cool guitar and fun to play. Of course that doesn't answer your question. :lol:

PTony 02-04-2019 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmountain (Post 5970129)
I have a 5420T in Fairlane Blue. Really cool guitar and fun to play. Of course that doesn't answer your question. :lol:

Hahaha! No you’re correct. It does not. But, thanks for sharing. I’m sure it’s a great guitar and I love that color. I’ve also been eyeing the Aleutian blue. :evilgrin:

MIGAS79 02-04-2019 04:08 PM

My Pro Jet is a 5238 I think (no Bigsby). I think they changed the pickups. I love the guitar. I have the BlackTop Filtertrons. No complaints except a 3-way switch that feels on the cheaper side. I think in general these Gretsch’s are great bang for the buck. Sadly mine took a tumble and has some battle scars.

I use mine acoustically when the kiddo is sleeping. Sounds great.

PTony 02-05-2019 05:43 PM

Well, I ordered it today. Airline Silver! Little bit of metal flake. B-50. Blacktop Filtertons. So, hopefully it’ll be as good as I’ve read/heard. I’ll post more once I get some playing time with it.

Johnny K 02-06-2019 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PTony (Post 5971198)
Well, I ordered it today. Airline Silver! Little bit of metal flake. B-50. Blacktop Filtertons. So, hopefully it’ll be as good as I’ve read/heard. I’ll post more once I have time to get some playing time with it.

It should be a good pairing with my 5620T-CB in Black :guitar:

I absolutely love my 5620 and have been very impressed with the build quality, feel, and tone of the Electromatics.
So, I’m hopeful it’ll be equally as good.

Nice! Should we call you Mr. Zoom now?

PTony 02-07-2019 12:30 AM

LOL. Not sure it has that much sparkle...but I wouldn’t be opposed to it! Scheduled to arrive tomorrow. I didn’t waste any time I guess. I did read and watch all that I could find online, but being newer there’s not a ton of info out there.

Considering no one carries them locally I can always send it back (for less than a half tank of fuel...which is what driving to the nearest dealer would’ve cost. Not to mention finding the time to do that) to my friends at Sweetwater if it isn’t what I’d expected.

I’m hopeful. More to come. :D

FrankHudson 02-07-2019 10:40 AM

We'll all be waiting to hear what you think. I too think of Billy Zoom when I see a Sparkle Jet.

I've been on an extended encounter with a Electromatic full-sized hollow-body. I'm playing it at least as much as I thought I would. I have a couple of guitars with Fender's doomed yet interesting DeArmond line from the turn of the century with their DeArmond single coil pickups that I loved, and I wanted to explore more of the Filtertron sound as well.

62&climbing 02-07-2019 10:47 AM

I am anxious to hear your thoughts on your new 5420. I am seriously thinking about that or the 5422. Leaning 5422... but... love the Aspen Green 5420. Please keep us up to date.

I am a bit confused here. I haven't bought a guitar in over 3 or 4 years and somehow now "must have" this Gretsch. It's like getting bit by a snake. Didn't see it coming.

PTony 02-07-2019 11:41 PM

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Well...here’s an update on my new G5230T Electromatic Jet FT. I’ve not been able to spend a lot of time with it so far. But, initial impressions below.

Build quality...excellent. Very, very good. As many Imports have been as of late.

Pots, caps, wiring, switch, jack, and bridge...not the best. I’ll be changing out all of it.

The bridge...junk. I’ve read about Compton’s, and a few others but am not sure what direction to go. The board has a 12 inch radius.

The tuners seem to be decent. But, I think that I have some lockers laying around that I may use.

The Bigsby has the typical issues with tuning if used. I am intrigued with the “Palm-O-Low”...

The Blacktop Filtertons sound good. Actually, really good...but imo the wiring lets them down.

Playability is excellent. Fantastic setup (for my playing style) out of the box. 5/64 on low E. 4/64 on high E. Neck relief .008.

The neck is great (seems to be a mix between a Strat and a Gibson). I’d say an almost full U. Very comfortable.

I LOVE the way it plays/feels. I LIKE the way it sounds, but I know I’ll love it once I do a bit of modding.

I’ll update this as I go. As stated earlier, if you have any suggestions/recommendations please weigh in.

Thanks for reading! More to come...

PTony 02-08-2019 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 62&climbing (Post 5972672)
I am a bit confused here. I haven't bought a guitar in over 3 or 4 years and somehow now "must have" this Gretsch. It's like getting bit by a snake. Didn't see it coming.

I can COMPLETELY relate. I’d spent the last year downsizing with the specific goal of only keeping what I USE. No guitars in cases not being played. No drawers full of pedals in boxes...I even sold my unused 65 TRRI that sat in my music room with its cover for a long time.

I’d been to numerous shops with my son (who plays also), and other musician friends and had ZERO desire to buy anything. Seriously...NOTHING. I’d bought my Reverend from Maury in early 2018 with the intention of buying nothing else.

And up until 2 weeks ago...I’d been very satisfied. Then, I happened to stumble across the new G5230T’s and immediately told my wife...I have to buy one. Of course there aren’t any dealers around here so I did what research I could...but something inside me said that I HAD to have one.

I’d had a new rule that if one comes in, one must go out as I didn’t want guitars sitting unused. But, I don’t see that happening. It’s crazy. I guess there are those guitars that just have to be attained.

PTony 02-16-2019 10:33 PM

Hello Friends.

It’s been a while so I thought I’d post an update on my NGD Gretsch.

I’ve added the “Biggs Fix & “Squishy Spring”. As always, a great addition to any Bigsby. I also added locking tuners and applied some pencil lead to the nut and saddle (temp till I get my new nut). These come with “synthetic bone”
1 11/16” inch nuts. Very comfortable nut width for me, but I want to swap it out for a TUSQ.

I am waiting for my pots, caps, treble bleed kit, jack, switch, and switch tip from TV Jones. I’ll use some vintage pushback wire that I have on hand. I’m going to move to 500k CTS pots, and an Orangedrop .022 cap, as well as a SwitchCraft jack and switch. I believe that will “wake” it up some. It sounds decent, but seems to be a little dark at times.

The BT FT’s are really great sounding pickups! I adjusted them to the TV Jones recommended specs and that made a big difference in tone. Again, they sound great, but need a little help with upgraded wiring.

The neck is absolutely fantastic. Very comfortable. This is the first black walnut fretboard that I’ve owned. It’s very smooth. Not quite Ebony smooth, but definitely smoother than rosewood as far as feel goes.

Honestly the stock bridge will need to go. It’ll work for now...but it’s not a long term piece. I’m going to try a Reverend roller for $20. Can’t hurt. If it’s terrible I’ll remove it and look for an ABM2400, or...possibly a Compton.

It’s an absolute blast to play. I just can’t believe how far import guitars have come. It truly is remarkable.

I’ll post more as I go.

Johnny K 02-17-2019 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PTony (Post 5973295)
Well...here’s an update on my new G5230T Electromatic Jet FT.

The Blacktop Filtertons sound good. Actually, really good...but imo the wiring lets them down.

Thanks for reading! More to come...

Agreed! The blacktop Filtertrons sound great (especially with flat wounds) but the guitar was wired by crackheads using bargain bin wire. Most unreliable thing ever. I can't gig with my 5422 until I remedy this.

Like you, I'll be doing a rewire very soon!

PTony 02-18-2019 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny K (Post 5982386)
Agreed! The blacktop Filtertrons sound great (especially with flat wounds) but the guitar was wired by crackheads using bargain bin wire. Most unreliable thing ever.

I got a good belly laugh from that...thanks! I certainly agree. They obviously focus on build quality and pickups and cut corners on the electronics, tuners, and saddle. I guess they’re not alone.

PTony 02-23-2019 01:37 AM

Latest update...

Installed Reverend roller bridge (honestly I feel it helped tremendously. Especially regarding rattles). It was a drop in replacement using original studs. I’m a bit surprised at the quality for $20 shipped! But my Reverend is a fantastic guitar so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. I’d purchased a roller from Stew Mac for a CP Jag and it was almost double the cost and didn’t feel as well made.

Also, strung it with .011’s and a wound G. It feels more solid. All the way around. Unplugged there’s definitely more body vibration/resonance. Plugged in it seems to have increased sustain as well.

I did a quick tweak on the setup after going from .010’ to .011’s. Plays very, very nice. Loving the black walnut board more and more.

More to follow.

marty bradbury 02-23-2019 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PTony (Post 5981880)
Hello Friends.

It’s been a while so I thought I’d post an update on my NGD Gretsch.

I’ve added the “Biggs Fix & “Squishy Spring”. As always, a great addition to any Bigsby. I also added locking tuners and applied some pencil lead to the nut and saddle (temp till I get my new nut). These come with “synthetic bone”
1 11/16” inch nuts. Very comfortable nut width for me, but I want to swap it out for a TUSQ. Tuning seems to hold steady with Bigsby use. Of course I typically use it more for “shimmer”...not heavy usage.

I am waiting for my pots, caps, treble bleed kit, jack, switch, and switch tip from TV Jones. I’ll use some vintage pushback wire that I have on hand. I’m going to move to 500k CTS pots, and an Orangedrop .022 cap, as well as a SwitchCraft jack and switch. I believe that will “wake” it up some. It sounds decent, but seems to be a little dark at times.

The BT FT’s are really great sounding pickups! I adjusted them to the TV Jones recommended specs and that made a big difference in tone. Again, they sound great, but need a little help with upgraded wiring.

The neck is absolutely fantastic. Very comfortable. This is the first black walnut fretboard that I’ve owned. It’s very smooth. Not quite Ebony smooth, but definitely smoother than rosewood as far as feel goes.

I’m planning on running it through the paces live tomorrow. At least through rehearsal. If it holds steady then I’ll run with it live. I haven’t been able to play it out until now. I wanted to keep it here in my home studio until I got the “Biggs” stuff installed.

Honestly the stock bridge will need to go. It’ll work for now...but it’s not a long term piece. I’m going to try a Reverend roller for $20. Can’t hurt. If it’s terrible I’ll remove it and look for an ABM2400, or...possibly a Compton. I still haven’t decided what I want to do there.

The build quality really is impressive. It’s chambered and definitely lighter than my solid centerblock 5620cb-t, and my E series Jap Strat. I think my Reverend is lighter than this...but not by much. It’s an absolute blast to play. I just can’t believe how far import guitars have come. It truly is remarkable.

I’ll post more as I go.

As to pics...idk. I tried to upload/embed them here. Seems imgur allowed me to upload some...anyway, these are stock pics from Sweetwater. They do not do it justice. The silver metal flake is gorgeous when the light hits it.

IMHO the darker grey background that Sweetwater used to use was better. Regardless, until I can get better pics these should do.

https://imgur.com/a/LHUO4bB

Well. I understood about a third of what you posted, lol. (I have yet to enter the electric guitar world but have been looking) But does sound like its coming along. Would love to see it. Pics?

PTony 02-23-2019 03:04 PM

It’s definitely been fun. I really enjoy upgrading guitars and building project guitars.

Years ago I was primarily an acoustic player. I enjoyed upgrading them as well. And while many things “transfer” from acoustic to electric...there is a bit wider learning curve when speaking about electrics.

PTony 03-29-2019 11:13 PM

Well...it’s been a while but I finally found enough time to get her finished...mostly. What a great guitar. Truly impressive. But, it wasn’t that way out of the box. I feel like I’ve broken a wild stallion lol!

The guitar had great fit and finish to begin with....but, actually too much finish around the nut. Replacing it was a bit of a challenge. I managed to get the nut out without ripping off any finished part of the headstock or neck. It took quite a bit of time. But, it was worth it.

I had tuning issues with this Gretsch from the rip (maybe some of it was due to the B50).

I’ve replaced the nut with a bone one, the tuners with lockers, the pots, caps, wiring, Jack, switch, tip have all been changed for CTS/SwitchCraft/Orangedrop. As mentioned in an earlier thread the bridge was replaced with a roller from Reverend and a BiggsFix and Squishy spring we’re installed as well.

Now I can play it very heavy handed and use the B-50 and it holds tune like a champ.

The BTFT sound great with some dirt. Whether it be my TS, Morning Glory, or Archer Ikon those pickups seem to be very content.

I would be curious to see how swapping the neck out with a Super Hi Lo would affect it? Anyone have a spare you’d care to part with? (*please pm me if so).

It’s been a bit of a journey but has been a great project and a lot of fun. Thanks for reading!


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