Bad finger habit in right hand..
 

..have recently learned that the fingers must move at the joint where the fingers meet the hand, not where I've been moving from, at the next joint on fingers or at both joints.

Is there a cure for this deeply ingrained habit? Other than persevering with conscious effort to break it (gonna slow me down significantly).

There must be some great advantage to it but I can't determine what it is.

i suggest you buy or download if there is out there the "effortless guitar" video from William Kanengiser member of Los Angeles Guitar Quartet
He explains very well how the fingers must move and how to train them

What a crock! Who told you that? As LJ pointed out, it ain't so...

Hey, Jack? Want to buy a bridge? I've got one for sale cheap!!!

(seriously... don't believe everything you read/hear/see...)

ok its on youtube on 10 parts
heres what you need to know at part 2 at 2:20 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldChZoSdvak

I don't know who told you that but I think they are full of it. All three on my joints move when I fingerpick and I have no problems at all.

Paikon
 

thx for the referral to the video on Youtube.

Looks like there's no other way to break the habit but conscious effort.

you are welcome
watch all ten parts of effortless guitar and this also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Edsc4AujU

yes, this is correct. not solely from the knuckle, but primarily.

here is a page from 'the art of classical guitar playing' by charles duncan. the second paragraph is relevant:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...pscd7acd98.jpg


i watched this video, and it definitely looked to me like he was primarily moving from the knuckle.


if you watch this video of alice artzt, around the 5:15 mark she talks a little about the hand motion. it's a very natural movement similar to picking up a stick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW1pDXnSGxI


i've bookmarked that for watching later.

like piano technique?
 

This movement from the first knuckle reminds of the normal way one is taught to play the piano. The starting and stopping locations may be different, but it seems very natural to me (after many years of piano playing). Maybe a little cross-training on the piano would help.

Any player who can play and project music in a way to move listeners, his technique, as efficient or inefficient it may be, becomes irrelevant.

true ,there is a guy who plays with his feet cos he has no hands and he moves listeners BUT when the issue is tone production, fast runs, accuracy then how the fingers move is very important.

efficiency and ergonomics are also important for playing long term without injury. i can't see why a natural ergonomic movement isn't to be preferred.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuckle:

The knuckles at the base of the fingers may be referred to as the 1st or major knuckles while the knuckles at the midfinger are known as the 2nd and 3rd, or minor, knuckles.

I am not even sure we are all talking about the same thing when we say "knuckle" vs. "finger joint". When I said "first knuckle", I meant the joint where the finger meets the back of the hand. In the picture below, that's the "MCP" joint. Which do you mean when you say knuckle and middle joint?

http://www.assh.org/Public/HandCondi...onesJoints.jpg