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lonecedar 12-01-2012 02:37 AM

4 year old signed my 12 string
 
Hi all - newbie member here.

My 4 year old grandson decided he was going to sign my Martin D12X1 with a pencil he found. The guitar was on a stand in my bedroom.

I told him I hope he grows up to be another Eric Clapton because I will have a guitar signed by him.

Anyway - it has a satin finish. Is there a way to remove the marks or do you think a luthier has the ability to do it?

Thank goodness it was a lower cost Martin. Should I worry about it ?

Thanks

-Pat

Bob1131 12-01-2012 07:06 AM

Did you try an eraser? :D

I would try a cleaner like Fantastik on a cloth (do not spray directly on the guitar) to remove the graphite. Just dampen the cloth with the cleaner and rub the marks gently. A polishing compound will remove the marks but will leave a shiny spot on the satin finish.

If your grandson had a heavy hand, the pencil will leave indentations that might lessen with judicial application of steam (causes the wood to swell and push out). If that doesn't work and you want to restore it to "new" condition, bring it to a luthier who can sand down the area and blend in a touch-up finish.

All of my guitars eventually end up with a few bumps. nicks and scratches, so if it isn't too big of an area, I would let it be after removing the pencil graphite.

dhalbert 12-01-2012 08:41 AM

A kneaded rubber eraser (kind of like putty, used for art) or, second, a vinyl eraser (Staedler Mars or similar ,often used for drafting) might work if a cleaner like Fantastik does not. The kneaded eraser picks up graphite because it's tacky. Use very gently. You may need to polish a bit when you're done.

HHP 12-01-2012 08:45 AM

I would be proud if your 4 year old grandson can write.

blackie51 12-01-2012 08:57 AM

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I told him I hope he grows up to be another Eric Clapton because I will have a guitar signed by him
Not if you remove his art work. I'd keep the signature right where it is and make sure to hand the guitar down to him someday. I'd also have a picture taken now of you and him with the guitar to pass along someday as well.

Tom

Neil K Walk 12-01-2012 09:37 AM

I'd leave it because it's a momento.

wrench68 12-01-2012 12:41 PM

I can understand a reaction, but in the grand scheme of things, your grandson's signature makes that Martin unique and priceless.

pitner 12-01-2012 01:09 PM

Think about trigger and you won't feel so bad.

ZekeM 12-01-2012 07:02 PM

4 year old signed my 12 string
 
I saw a 1944 Martin d18 at the Nashville guitar show today. It had a name carved into the soundboard, yes carved along with some other nonsense carved in there, price tag said $17,000. So I guess just wait 70 years and that signature won't devalue at all :D

redir 12-03-2012 06:35 AM

Buy a kazoo for the kid so he has something to do with mom and dad on the long drive home.

Shafe 12-03-2012 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redir (Post 3263938)
Buy a kazoo for the kid so he has something to do with mom and dad on the long drive home.

Awesome!!:D

stratokatsu 12-03-2012 06:46 AM

I see it's an X series, but does it have an HPL top or is the top solid wood?

If it's HPL, you should be able to clean it with something like Fantastik like someone said before. If it's a wooden top, the art gum type eraser, (something very gentle), would be my first try.

But I have to admit, while I wouldn't want my grandchildren to write or draw on my guitars, the idea of leaving it as a memento is a pretty neat idea. I also love the idea of handing down the guitar to him someday.

steveyam 12-03-2012 07:42 AM

It really depends on whether the pencil point has compressed the lacquer into a mini valley or, if the pencil mark is just sitting on the surface of the lacquer with no real indentation. If it's sitting on top, then as suggested, try various erasers. If its compressed the lacquer, and you're that bothered - you seem fairly laid back! - then it needs to go to a luthier who can build up those valleys with the correct lacquer - having first got rid of the graphite of course!

MisterZeus 12-03-2012 08:01 AM

"Simple Green" is the cleaner I use to remove pencil lines from both raw and finished wood in my other hobby, woodcarving.

i would try a little of that on a toothbrush.
Good luck.

bwstl01 12-03-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by blackie51 (Post 3261937)
Not if you remove his art work. I'd keep the signature right where it is and make sure to hand the guitar down to him someday. I'd also have a picture taken now of you and him with the guitar to pass along someday as well.

Tom

Ditto! And amend your will to make sure he gets the guitar and the pic should you be called away.


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