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Per Burström 10-09-2019 03:46 PM

JBL Eon One Compact - S1 Pro copy?
 
https://www.jblpro.com/www/news/pres...able-pa-system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL8HQkYG8KA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tQ5fPcR_-Y

Captain Jim 10-09-2019 04:55 PM

Sure looks like it. If you can't innovate, imitate. :rolleyes:

Oh, and make it just a lttle cheaper. I'll stay with the original.

Marty C 10-09-2019 04:55 PM

I guess they have been reading our post on the Bose forum for future product updates and request. The main one was the app control and expanded EQ/effects. Otherwise, they copied the form and fit.

necrome 10-09-2019 07:47 PM

The form factor is the same but it doesn't have the articulated "mini-array" in front of the woofer. Think it'll sound less good over long distances? Seems like just a basic 8" woofer PA with a barebones digital mixer

wood nacho 10-09-2019 10:05 PM

Very interesting! Just a 8" woofer? Hmm, concerning. Diggin the phantom power option though.

Edit: Upon further research, there IS a 1" tweeter on the unit.

Cuki79 10-10-2019 01:18 AM

Let's embbed the videos




Cuki79 10-10-2019 01:54 AM

https://d1aeri3ty3izns.cloudfront.ne...00/preview.jpg

It has a "gain" setting for each channel (although it is probably a digital gain).

From what I see on the pannel, I guess that in "Mix mode", the pots control the channel volume (therefore the numbers on the right) and in "Channel mode" you get to control gain and EQ...

Cuki79 10-10-2019 02:17 AM

Code:

Brand            JBL                      Bose            Fishman        Laney
Model name        eon one compact          S1 pro          Mini charge    AH4x4
Listprice        $549                      $599            $499          -
Weight            17.6 lbs                  15.5 lbs        21.2 lbs      14.3 lbs
Weight            8 Kg                      7 Kg            9.6 Kg        6.5 Kg
SPL/sensitivity  -                        -              -              97dB/W/m
maxSPL            112dB                    109dB          108dB          117dB
Power            120w                      103dB          60Wrms        35Wrms
XLR              2 combos                  2 combos                      2 combos
InstInput        1 Hi-Z                    2 combos                      2 combos
MonoLines        stereo                    stereo ste      stereo        2+stereo
Bluetooth        yes                      yes            yes            yes
XLRgain /sensitiv gain pots                49dB            gain pots      -40dBu
Jackgain /sensiti gain pots                42dB            gain pots      -20dBu
EQ                Bass, Treble,+8-band Mast 2 bands        3 bands        -
TiltedPosition    Yes                      Yes              ?            With gigbag
Polemount        Yes                      Yes int        No            Yes
Woofer            8"                        6.5"            6.5" paper    -
Tweeter          1"                        -              1" soft dome  3" silk neoD
Midrangespeakers  -                        3x2.25"        -              4x4"
Batteryvoltage    14.8v                    25v            12v            12v
Batterytechnology Li-ion                    Li-ion          Lead acid      Li-ion
ACpowersupply    standard IEC              standard IEC    12VDC external 12V DC ext.
Bandwidth        37.5 Hz-20kHz            70Hz-16kHz      80Hz -20kHz    70Hz -20kHz
DI out            Jack                      jack            XLR            jack
FX                yes                      yes            yes            yes
Master volume    yes                      -              yes            yes
Anti feedback    no but 8-band Master EQ  -              -              yes
Sub out          No                        -              -              yes
Phantom power    yes                      No              No            yes
Extra            USB ports+Headph.

The only question left is:
"Is the JBL eon one compact less loud when performing on batteries?"

... Which basically can be translated to: Is there a step-converter to enable higher voltage like the boost output of the Bose battery to let the JBL work at full-power when battery operated?

AeroUSA: We need a Bose S1 pro vs JBL eon one compact video!!

For those who like unboxing videos:
Unboxing link

necrome 10-10-2019 03:12 AM

Thanks Cuki for the great list of specs for comparable products!

Cuki79 10-10-2019 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by necrome (Post 6182722)
The form factor is the same but it doesn't have the articulated "mini-array" in front of the woofer. Think it'll sound less good over long distances? Seems like just a basic 8" woofer PA with a barebones digital mixer

I don't think Bose S1 pro qualifies as a line-array. 3 speakers are not enough. So you will get a widerspread because of the angle but not a better depth penetration than other speakers.

On the other hand, a tweeter will give a stronger high end.

It really depends on taste

necrome 10-10-2019 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuki79 (Post 6182906)
I don't think Bose S1 pro qualifies as a line-array. 3 speakers are not enough. So you will get a widerspread because of the angle but not a better depth penetration than other speakers.

On the other hand, a tweeter will give a stronger high end.

It really depends on taste

Definitely, I'm still looking for something to replace the Laney AH4x4 though, it's been great no doubt but I could do with more headroom while sounding nice and I'm not sure if this is the product to do so... The digital mixer is refreshing, since the S1 Pro's main weakness is the lack of EQ knobs.

martingitdave 10-10-2019 04:27 AM

On paper, this product would be a better fit for me. I have the new JBL Eon Pro and the Bose S1. I guess JBL listens to the online feedback. While there is some feature expansion, the form factor is nearly identical to the Bose. Being a JBL product, my question/concern would be channel gain. I personally think the 8” driver is important.

Cuki79 10-10-2019 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martingitdave (Post 6182914)
On paper, this product would be a better fit for me. I have the new JBL Eon Pro and the Bose S1. I guess JBL listens to the online feedback. While there is some feature expansion, the form factor is nearly identical to the Bose. Being a JBL product, my question/concern would be channel gain. I personally think the 8” driver is important.

Also right now, there is no way to identify a Bose S1 pro unit that has the draining battery desease...

Bose S1 pro draining when not in use thread

I almost pulled the trigger for a S1 but this problem annoyed me too much. In Europe, the BOSE customer support might not be as reactive as in the US.

I don't say JBL is more reliable. Everyone remembers the first JBL eon one units heating problem.

Cuki79 10-10-2019 06:06 AM

From all the claims in the website, one I like most is:

Quote:

Two pro-grade preamps deliver fuller, richer sound from any microphone
https://www.jblpro.com/Microsite-eononecompact/

Most portable speakers don't dare to claim that...

Also it seems bigger than the Bose S1: More air mass means more low end. Good sign for supporting the 37.5Hz low end limit claim

Justinian 10-10-2019 09:31 AM

I cannot find wattage for EON ONE Compact?


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