First Archtop
Hey guys.
I'm looking for my first arch top. I love the tone of this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGxdNvhlLCA It's a bit out of my price range. Any sub 2k archtops that can get that tone and also have fantastic playability? |
]Well, there's nothing quite like a 175...there's a reason they're probably the most recorded "jazz guitar" in history.
EpiphoNE makes one now, that gets a heck of a lot of the vibe. Worth checking out. Eastman makes the 371/2. People like them, but I don't think they sound much like a 175. You might check the used market for "lawsuit" era Ibanezes and Grecos and such. Great guitars. You can also find a Heritage 575 sub 2k used. They're not the same as a 175, but you can definitely pull a lot of 175-ish tones out of them. I'm using a 575 here: https://youtu.be/SIf-9P1GoWM |
Elderly has of the old Tacoma arch tops with the floating pickups at a decent price.
https://www.elderly.com/tacoma-ajf25ce5sb-2000.htm |
I'll +1 Jeff on the Epi and also recommend the Godin CW II - depending on whether you're after a '50s or '60s 175-style tone it's available with either P-90's or humbuckers; I've got one of the former (as does Jeff TMK), and through a nice low/mid-powered tube combo you'll be hard-pressed to find better tone/playability/QC for under $1K...
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But I kinda wish I haD a spare $1,750:) |
Thanks for the leads, guys.
What's the difference in tone between the p90 175 and the humbucker version? Is the p90 warmer and more mellow? |
I go along with what Mr. Beaumont says most of the way, but I am one the the people who likes the Eastman371. He's right in that id doesn't sound like a 175, nothing does except a 175, but the Eastman is good value, I think and you can get some nice sounds from it. Mine is the single pickup version. They do a two pickup instrument too.
I think the Godin King Pin equipped guitar has been mentioned. They, too, are nice guitars in your price range. I had one of those but eventually sold it as the seller could or would not fix a small problem. Quite a ffew on this forum like those. Of course the only way to really find out is to go and try some. Before you go off round the shops, make a list of those to try starting with the most popular ones mentioned on this thread. Have fun! :) |
P90 will have a little more bite and clarity, but still be "warm." Great jazz pickups...they can be a little noisy if you play in places with old wiring/neon/flourescents
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Steve, how is that ES-135?
Is it a viable alternative if I can't afford a 175? Edit: Looks like it's not an archtop? |
I am assuming you are wanting an archtop for plugged in playing, not a purely acoustic archtop.
Here is a clip of the Godin Kingpin with p90 pickups. I agree with Mr. De Rosa. There is a lot to like about P90s. They cover a lot of ground tonally. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QeV6Kx0_-4I Same guy, this time with a 56 ES 175. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D3kD-1_fyRk |
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I believe it is vice versa. Of course there is different sounding pickups in both cases, but when people want more bite, they swap to P90, or some other singlecoil pup. |
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You should check out a D'Angelico EXL-1. Here's a nice video of one in action.
https://youtu.be/AqwTdKqrD3w |
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