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Deliberate1 02-08-2020 01:48 PM

Barre Chord - finger overlay
 
As I make my early way into the world of barre chords, I sometimes have this urge to overlay my middle finger on top of the index for added compression. I have seen many videos of players who do this. But I am concerned that it may be a crutch that I will have to unlearn.
Your thoughts?
Thanks.
David

Silly Moustache 02-08-2020 02:23 PM

In modern playing styles there are no rules , do what works for you.

rick-slo 02-08-2020 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Deliberate1 (Post 6287142)
As I make my early way into the world of barre chords, I sometimes have this urge to overlay my middle finger on top of the index for added compression. I have seen many videos of players who do this. But I am concerned that it may be a crutch that I will have to unlearn.
Your thoughts?
Thanks.
David

Perfectly fine (and smart) to do that where it fits in with the current notes required in the piece.

srbell 02-08-2020 02:39 PM

It can work at times, but many, if not most, chords will require that the 2nd finger be used for other notes. I would recommend learning the classic/traditional fingerings for them first, then using the shortcuts or helpers where you can. Barre chords do take getting used to but your fingers will build up the strength needed over time. Dont press any harder than you need, and remember - even though your index finger will be used across multiple strings its really not playing all of them - only those that the other fingers are not fretting further up the neck.

Deliberate1 02-08-2020 04:16 PM

Thanks friends. Seemed to me to be a crutch. I did not want to use it so habitually that it somehow inhibited the use of the middle finger when called on to fret.
David

Deliberate1 02-08-2020 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by srbell (Post 6287174)
Dont press any harder than you need, and remember - even though your index finger will be used across multiple strings its really not playing all of them - only those that the other fingers are not fretting further up the neck.

Appreciate that good advice. I always try to be "present" when I play. Seems that if I wander I end up clamping, and with barre chords, forgetting that other fingers have a job too.
David

Kerbie 02-08-2020 04:21 PM

I don't think it's a problem. I've seen a lot of people do that. Do whatever you need.

Deliberate1 02-08-2020 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerbie (Post 6287265)
Do whatever you need.

Thanks, K.
I do typically play in "Survival Mode."
David

lowrider 02-08-2020 05:50 PM

When you aren't using it, you have to do something with your middle finger. If you don't think about it, it will probably end up over your first finger. I don't worry about it.

Deliberate1 02-08-2020 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lowrider (Post 6287318)
When you aren't using it, you have to do something with your middle finger.

Forgive me, but I did get a bit of a chuckle over that - a most appropriate use of that digit sometimes.
David

DukeX 02-08-2020 07:21 PM

I don't even think about it anymore. My fingers seem to know if and when it is needed. Also depends on which guitar I'm playing.

Deliberate1 02-08-2020 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeX (Post 6287376)
Also depends on which guitar I'm playing.

Due to higher/stiffer action?
David

charles Tauber 02-08-2020 08:44 PM

I’m not going to sugar-coat it: don’t do it if you intend to play music that is more “technically complex”.

If you find it difficult to barre chords, look to improving the setup of your guitar and to improving your technique. Barre chords do not require a great deal of strength if one’s technique is good and one’s instrument is well setup.

rick-slo 02-08-2020 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by charles Tauber (Post 6287427)
I’m not going to sugar-coat it: don’t do it if you intend to play music that is more “technically complex”.

If you find it difficult to barre chords, look to improving the setup of your guitar and to improving your technique. Barre chords do not require a great deal of strength if one’s technique is good and one’s instrument is well setup.

I will pass on your advice to Bream and Chapdelaine (among others).

When it fits into the tune using the middle finger over index finger gives a clean sound without much effort.

Me
http://dcoombsguitar.com/Temp/Barre01.jpg


Bream
http://dcoombsguitar.com/Temp/JulianBreamBarre.jpg

Chapdelaine
http://dcoombsguitar.com/Misc/TwoFingerBarre.jpg

charles Tauber 02-08-2020 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rick-slo (Post 6287477)
I will pass on your advice to Bream and Chapdelaine (among others).

Please do and share their thoughts on the practice.


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