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SpruceTop 09-24-2022 12:30 PM

Gotta Love Banjos!
 
Okay, so I wanted to lower the action on my new Ozark Custom 12-inch Figured Cherry, so what did I do? I measured the original bridge height of the banjo with digital calipers and found it to be .609 inches high. I figured what difference I needed to get the action height I wanted and ordered a Snuffy Smith 9/16 inch (.562") high bridge from Elderly Instruments two days ago and it just came in the mail. So, I slid the new bridge into position behind the original higher bridge, tilted the original bridge forward, and removed it with the strings now resting on the lower new bridge. I splayed the strings out until all were in their respective groove on the new bridge. I checked the vertical alignment of the new bridge, and then its centering on the head via any middle-string side-to-side deflection one way or the other and tuned the banjo with my PolyTune Clip-On Tuner. Lastly, I checked the intonation at the 12th fret with the tuner and it was right on.

Total time to perform this operation: 10 minutes = Happiness :)

jacot23 09-24-2022 01:16 PM

Yep, I've been having Tim Purcell make me some custom height(.595) bridges(w/ wider Crowe space) to get my action just right.

SpruceTop 09-24-2022 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jacot23 (Post 7093447)
Yep, I've been having Tim Purcell make me some custom height(.595) bridges(w/ wider Crowe space) to get my action just right.

That's Great! Being that my clawhammer technique is a little sloppy, I thought about trying the Crowe-spaced version of the Snuffy Smith bridge as there's plenty of side space on the fretboard to accommodate the extra .040-inch outward string spread on each side at the bridge.

Current Banjos:
Ozark Custom 12-inch Figured Cherry
Vega No. 2 Tubaphone
OME North Star Walnut
Rickard 12" Maple Ridge Dobson
Pisgah 12" Walnut Tubaphone
Bart Reiter Regent Whyte Laydie

Rudy4 09-24-2022 02:31 PM

Excellent solution, Sprucetop!

(There is a bit quicker solution for adjusting preferred action, but the banjo has to be designed to do it.) :)


SpruceTop 09-24-2022 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy4 (Post 7093510)
Excellent solution, Sprucetop!

(There is a bit quicker solution for adjusting preferred action, but the banjo has to be designed to do it.) :)


Rudy, that's no fun, it's Too Easy! ;)

Current Banjos:
Ozark Custom 12-inch Figured Cherry
Vega No. 2 Tubaphone
OME North Star Walnut
Rickard 12" Maple Ridge Dobson
Pisgah 12" Walnut Tubaphone
Bart Reiter Regent Whyte Laydie

jacot23 09-24-2022 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SpruceTop (Post 7093456)
That's Great! Being that my clawhammer technique is a little sloppy, I thought about trying the Crowe-spaced version of the Snuffy Smith bridge as there's plenty of side space on the fretboard to accommodate the extra .040-inch outward string spread on each side at the bridge.

You ought to try a Purcell Black Locust sometime.

SpruceTop 09-28-2022 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jacot23 (Post 7093660)
You ought to try a Purcell Black Locust sometime.

Thanks, I checked Tim Purcell's website and he's got some nice bridge offerings. It's great that he's able to do the radiused bottom feature similar to Deering's Smile bridges. I like Tim's reasonable prices, too! Purcell Banjo Bridges

Current Banjos:
Ozark Custom 12-inch Figured Cherry
Vega No. 2 Tubaphone
OME North Star Walnut
Rickard 12" Maple Ridge Dobson
Pisgah 12" Walnut Tubaphone
Bart Reiter Regent Whyte Laydie

SpruceTop 09-30-2022 03:10 PM

It's may not be apparent in your mind's ear but until you actually play a dreadnought guitar with a flatpick immediately after playing clawhammer style on an open-back banjo just how loud your real ears tell you that a banjo sounds! I just finished playing my Taylor 717e Builder's Edition dreadnought after playing my new Ozark Custom 12" Figured Cherry banjo and I'm kind of shocked. Guitars as "banjo killers?" Does anyone believe any of the hype some brands put out there? :)

Current Banjos:
Ozark Custom 12-inch Figured Cherry
Vega No. 2 Tubaphone
OME North Star Walnut
Rickard 12" Maple Ridge Dobson
Pisgah 12" Walnut Tubaphone
Bart Reiter Regent Whyte Laydie

Maryc-k 10-02-2022 09:19 AM

It’s the voice range of the banjo that overpowers the rest of the band when playing together. It’s like playing a mandola with two guitar players….they bury the mandola.

SpruceTop 10-02-2022 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Maryc-k (Post 7098346)
It’s the voice range of the banjo that overpowers the rest of the band when playing together. It’s like playing a mandola with two guitar players….they bury the mandola.

Thanks, Mary, yes, frequency-range has a lot to do with it. Another reason I think banjos are loud is that their construction quickly expends most of the energy imparted to their strings whereas guitar construction more slowly releases string energy (sustain) after the initial fairly loud tone.

Current Banjos:
Ozark Custom 12-inch Figured Cherry
Vega No. 2 Tubaphone
OME North Star Walnut
Rickard 12" Maple Ridge Dobson
Pisgah 12" Walnut Tubaphone
Bart Reiter Regent Whyte Laydie

Dotneck 11-12-2022 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SpruceTop (Post 7093418)
Okay, so I wanted to lower the action on my new Ozark Custom 12-inch Figured Cherry, so what did do? …<snip>…Total time to perform this operation: 10 minutes = Happiness :)

I’m thinking of changing the strings on my new Gold Tone. The stock strings feel so thin and slinky…I wonder if a more stout string would be better. Might as well switch out the bridge at the same time.

What size strings do y’all like?

Stringmaster 11-14-2022 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dotneck (Post 7125480)
I’m thinking of changing the strings on my new Gold Tone. The stock strings feel so thin and slinky…I wonder if a more stout string would be better. Might as well switch out the bridge at the same time.

What size strings do y’all like?

As a guitar player new to banjo that was the first thing I noticed—the strings felt way too slinky. I’m not sure what gauge they are, but I’m going to put some mediums on, although I think these are mediums. As I’m working on the basic clawhammer strum, I’m getting more used to the feel of the strings, but at first it was “shocking” to me, and I kept checking my tuning to make sure it was to pitch! The intonation is driving me crazy though, which I hope improves with new strings. It’s going in the shop tomorrow for a little work/setup—will report back. Good luck!

jacot23 11-14-2022 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dotneck (Post 7125480)
I’m thinking of changing the strings on my new Gold Tone. The stock strings feel so thin and slinky…I wonder if a more stout string would be better. Might as well switch out the bridge at the same time.

What size strings do y’all like?

I prefer Ernie Ball Eartwood Frailing strings on my Clawhammer banjos. 10 24 15 13 10

bluemoon 11-26-2022 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dotneck (Post 7125480)
I’m thinking of changing the strings on my new Gold Tone. The stock strings feel so thin and slinky…I wonder if a more stout string would be better. Might as well switch out the bridge at the same time.

What size strings do y’all like?

I’m running medium strings from Pisgah banjos/balsam banjo works. I like dadarrio pb mediums too but they are a wee bit stiffer.

SpruceTop 11-26-2022 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bluemoon (Post 7134261)
I’m running medium strings from Pisgah banjos/balsam banjo works.

These are what came installed on my custom Pisgah and they feel really nice (this is the set with the .024" Wound 4th string, correct?). I'll likely put these on all my banjos when changing strings.

Current Banjos:
Ozark Custom 12-inch Figured Cherry
Vega No. 2 Tubaphone
OME North Star Walnut
Rickard 12" Maple Ridge Dobson
Pisgah 12" Walnut Tubaphone
Bart Reiter Regent Whyte Laydie


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