The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #91  
Old 12-06-2017, 10:28 PM
Wade Hampton Wade Hampton is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Chugiak, Alaska
Posts: 21,067
Default

After I asked how Mortimor's baritone guitar tastes, Bruce in Australia suggested:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucebubs View Post
mmmm ..... stringy?
It might give him low, rumbling heartburn, as well.....



Actual photo of Brucebubs playing a gig in Australia


whm
Reply With Quote
  #92  
Old 12-06-2017, 10:37 PM
Brucebubs's Avatar
Brucebubs Brucebubs is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Eden, Australia
Posts: 9,057
Default

I raise you one Maton ukulele playing koala ...

__________________
Brucebubs

1972 - Takamine D-70
1980 - Morris B-50
2001 - Guild F-412
2009 - Martin Grand J12-40E Special
2011 - Martin JDP 2 #71/71
2014 - RAS kit #3 Dreadnought
2014 - Alvarez ABT60 Baritone
2015 - Kittis RBJ-195 Jumbo
2012 - Dan Dubowski#61
2016 - RAS kit #4 Small Jumbo 'Nashville Tuned'
2017 - Crimson SBG378HH bass.
Reply With Quote
  #93  
Old 12-06-2017, 10:48 PM
Mortimor Mortimor is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 89
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wade Hampton View Post
I guess that the rest of us who've posted in this thread didn't, uh.....you know....make it clear enough that you're supposed to PLAY the guitar, not eat it.
Oh sure, Now you tell me... BURP!
__________________
Yamaha FG800
Ibanez AC240
Yamaha LS16R ARE
Alvarez ABT610E Baritone
Reply With Quote
  #94  
Old 12-07-2017, 03:45 PM
Mr Bojangles Mr Bojangles is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 509
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reasley View Post
I noticed that they had a "call for discount" icon -- is that how you got that price? Also, do you know if the electric version is on sale and, if so, how much?
Sorry for the delayed answer, I just now saw your post. The price was $290.50 with a discount of $43.57 with the code "cyber". The electric version has been on sale (on and off) as the SDOTD several times, the last time it was around $279.
Reply With Quote
  #95  
Old 12-07-2017, 05:08 PM
Mr Bojangles Mr Bojangles is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 509
Default

I just ordered an Alvarez CJ1 Jumbo case from MF for $74.69 (using the code "HOLIDAY17"). Not quite as good a deal as GC had a while ago (25% off). I hope that I like the ADT60, I almost bought the version with the electronics when it was on sale. I got a great deal on this one, and I have a K&K Pure Mini new in the box that I can install if I want to. Are there any other differences between the two Alvarez models other than the obvious no pickguard, sunburst top, and electronics?
Reply With Quote
  #96  
Old 12-07-2017, 05:23 PM
Earl49 Earl49 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Idaho
Posts: 4,943
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Bojangles View Post
.....Are there any other differences between the two Alvarez models other than the obvious no pick guard, sunburst top, and electronics?
I think you catalogued the differences there. I ordered the JC-1 case about a week after my ABT610ESHB arrived, from the SDOTD sale. I wanted to try the guitar first, having some doubts, before spending more $$$ still on a hard case. I paid the same $76 price you did on the case after spending $299 on the guitar. I'm pretty happy with both, especially for $375 all-in, including delivery. Yes, there are better baritone guitars out there, but at several multiples of that price. I should really try the electronics before more time passes.....

Some earlier posters have mentioned that the regular ABT60 is part of the Alvarez product line, but the ABT610 is a special GC / MF only version, and does not appear on the Alvarez web site. I was able to register my warranty just fine on the Alvarez site last week, however.
Reply With Quote
  #97  
Old 12-07-2017, 05:36 PM
Mr Bojangles Mr Bojangles is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 509
Default

Thanks for the response, and enjoy your guitar! It has a great looking finish, and I like the no pickguard look. Mine has a rather high action. I can certainly sand down the saddle, but are baritones supposed to have higher actions?
Reply With Quote
  #98  
Old 12-07-2017, 05:53 PM
Brucebubs's Avatar
Brucebubs Brucebubs is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Eden, Australia
Posts: 9,057
Default

I posted these pictures of the string height that works well for me on my ABT-60 ...



... someone immediately noticed the double dot fret markers are not parallel.
__________________
Brucebubs

1972 - Takamine D-70
1980 - Morris B-50
2001 - Guild F-412
2009 - Martin Grand J12-40E Special
2011 - Martin JDP 2 #71/71
2014 - RAS kit #3 Dreadnought
2014 - Alvarez ABT60 Baritone
2015 - Kittis RBJ-195 Jumbo
2012 - Dan Dubowski#61
2016 - RAS kit #4 Small Jumbo 'Nashville Tuned'
2017 - Crimson SBG378HH bass.
Reply With Quote
  #99  
Old 12-07-2017, 06:00 PM
leew3 leew3 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 402
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucebubs View Post
I posted these pictures of the string height that works well for me on my ABT-60 ...



... someone immediately noticed the double dot fret markers are not parallel.
Just tell them to count things and wash their hands repeatedly until they feel better!
Reply With Quote
  #100  
Old 12-07-2017, 06:07 PM
Mr Bojangles Mr Bojangles is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 509
Default

Thanks for that, but I can't clearly tell what the measurements are. The top photo appears to be 3/32", and the bottom photo appears to be 4mm. If that is correct, those are two different distances. I'm assuming that both photos are of the same guitar.
Reply With Quote
  #101  
Old 12-07-2017, 06:20 PM
Brucebubs's Avatar
Brucebubs Brucebubs is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Eden, Australia
Posts: 9,057
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Bojangles View Post
Thanks for that, but I can't clearly tell what the measurements are. The top photo appears to be 3/32", and the bottom photo appears to be 4mm. If that is correct, those are two different distances. I'm assuming that both photos are of the same guitar.
Yes, same guitar-same non-parallel fret markers
The metric ruler pictured is 1.0 mm increments on the left and 0.5 mm increments on the right.
So, just over 2.0 mm - probably 2.2-2.3 mm
I tune 'C' to 'C'.
If you want to tune 'B' to 'B' you may need to raise that height as the strings will have less tension and may be too floppy/buzzy.
__________________
Brucebubs

1972 - Takamine D-70
1980 - Morris B-50
2001 - Guild F-412
2009 - Martin Grand J12-40E Special
2011 - Martin JDP 2 #71/71
2014 - RAS kit #3 Dreadnought
2014 - Alvarez ABT60 Baritone
2015 - Kittis RBJ-195 Jumbo
2012 - Dan Dubowski#61
2016 - RAS kit #4 Small Jumbo 'Nashville Tuned'
2017 - Crimson SBG378HH bass.

Last edited by Brucebubs; 12-07-2017 at 06:28 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #102  
Old 12-07-2017, 06:59 PM
Mortimor Mortimor is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 89
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucebubs View Post
If you want to tune 'B' to 'B' you may need to raise that height as the strings will have less tension and may be too floppy/buzzy.
My ABT610ESHB came with a bit of a backbow. After some truss rod adjustments to get rid of most of the buzz, the twelfth fret action is just below 2.5mm on the bass side and just above 2mm on the treble side.

I have it tuned B to B and there is still a bit of fret buzz on the 9th fret of the low B string. I used a credit card as a fret rocker and the frets seem level with each other in that area, so it appears the baritone needs either higher action or a bit more neck relief than I normally use.
__________________
Yamaha FG800
Ibanez AC240
Yamaha LS16R ARE
Alvarez ABT610E Baritone
Reply With Quote
  #103  
Old 12-07-2017, 07:06 PM
Brucebubs's Avatar
Brucebubs Brucebubs is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Eden, Australia
Posts: 9,057
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimor View Post
My ABT610ESHB came with a bit of a backbow. After some truss rod adjustments to get rid of most of the buzz, the twelfth fret action is just below 2.5mm on the bass side and just above 2mm on the treble side.

I have it tuned B to B and there is still a bit of fret buzz on the 9th fret of the low B string. I used a credit card as a fret rocker and the frets seem level with each other in that area, so it appears the baritone needs either higher action or a bit more neck relief than I normally use.
If you tune 'C' to 'C' does that slight buzz disappear?
__________________
Brucebubs

1972 - Takamine D-70
1980 - Morris B-50
2001 - Guild F-412
2009 - Martin Grand J12-40E Special
2011 - Martin JDP 2 #71/71
2014 - RAS kit #3 Dreadnought
2014 - Alvarez ABT60 Baritone
2015 - Kittis RBJ-195 Jumbo
2012 - Dan Dubowski#61
2016 - RAS kit #4 Small Jumbo 'Nashville Tuned'
2017 - Crimson SBG378HH bass.
Reply With Quote
  #104  
Old 12-07-2017, 07:15 PM
Mortimor Mortimor is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 89
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucebubs View Post
If you tune 'C' to 'C' does that slight buzz disappear?
I have to hit the string a bit harder to produce the buzz if I tune C to C.
__________________
Yamaha FG800
Ibanez AC240
Yamaha LS16R ARE
Alvarez ABT610E Baritone
Reply With Quote
  #105  
Old 12-08-2017, 12:50 PM
Mortimor Mortimor is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 89
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimor View Post
I have it tuned B to B and there is still a bit of fret buzz on the 9th fret of the low B string. I used a credit card as a fret rocker and the frets seem level with each other in that area, so it appears the baritone needs either higher action or a bit more neck relief than I normally use.
Because I thought the credit card I used to do my fret level tests might have been flexing and ruining my results, I repeated my rocker tests using a thicker, stiffer credit card and it rocks slightly on the 8th and 10th fret, leading me to believe the 9th fret is low.

Now I just have to decide how big of a problem this is.
__________________
Yamaha FG800
Ibanez AC240
Yamaha LS16R ARE
Alvarez ABT610E Baritone
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion

Thread Tools



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=