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Anthem (full) and K&K PWM
I was talking to a player/builder friend of mine who says that he takes the undersaddle out of the Anthem and wires in a K&K PWM in it's place. He says that is is the best sounding pickup he has ever used from stage. Has anyone else ever tried this?
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Well that's interesting. I've been thinking of doing a FULL Anthem + K&K… but maybe I'll try that first (without element).
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I was thinking of trying the Lyric + the K&K pure mini but this set up sounds interesting. I actually didn't even know that this was possible!
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I was thinking about this last night and the only downside I could see is that wiring the K&K to the Anthem and using it instead of the Element would mean that you could not eq the pure mini and tru-mic separately. I like how the output would be mono and that you could use the Anthem's controls but I wonder if it would be harder to eq than a Lyric + K&K set up with a stereo cable?
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The advantage I see with the Anthem + K&K is that with the element gives more cut/attack for a live situation… yet the K&K could be mixed to taste. I agree that using the K&K instead of the element wouldn't be much better than the Lyric + K&K… just a mono cable, but $100 more expensive.
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You can also think of it like this; The pickup only handles 250Hz and below, while the sound above 250Hz comes from the mic. So add an EQ to your mono signal, and if you EQ, say 100Hz, you're EQing the UST (or K&K or whatever), and not the mic, because the mic's not putting out anything at 100Hz. If you EQ, say 3KHz, you're EQing the mic, and you're not affecting the pickup, because it's not contributing anything at 3Khz. Now, if you just don't like that the crossover's handling this split for you at 250 and you want to be able to fully tweak everything, then forget the Anthem, and combine your own pieces (like a K&K+Lyric). Then you can do anything you like, but you're basically designing your own system instead of the one Baggs designed for you. Depends on what you want.
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Wouldn't the K&K just end up handling the frequencies that the Element was? (Remember, the low frequencies are what most people find problematic with the K&K PW Mini...)This, assuming that the crossover network is PART of the Amthem's signal chain, and not something that is readily replaced or bypassed, like if it were an integral part of the unit to begin with?
Seems that would be the case with either Anthem; with the SL version, that crossover is fixed and non-adjustable, but the full Anthem gives you the ability to control both the crossover point and the balance between the Element and the Tru-Mic... Why in the world someone would spend the $$$ on an Anthem and then basically, "re-invent the wheel", seems a far stretch and counter-productive. If you already had the Anthem and didn't like it, pull it out and sell it! They are still in enough demand that a sale could be accomplished fairly easily, I would think... and if you are just considering going this route, just build your own dual-source and have it the way you want it... I don't get it...
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I'm thinking of having a guitar wired with a Lyric and some Dazzos into a stereo jack, then take a Red Eye Twin and blend the signal there. Not exactly cheap, but I have a Lyric in one guitar and Dazzos in another and there are things I like about both.
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You can hear dazzo and k&k samples on my pickup page. They vary with install, guitar, and version, but the ones ive heard have had more high end than the k&ks
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I've heard the anthem KK combo in person by your player/builder friend. He has been using this combo at least for 2 years on live stage work. The combo is very natural sounding. He uses a Baggs venue DI with it to dial in an incredibly natural acoustic sound. It is very balanced with the low end and high end we aspire to get from all our other pickups. Plenty of volume without feedback too.
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