NGD - Martin Outlaw 17

[munkeyfish]

Very nice indeed. Lovely guitar!

[Groberts]

Originally Posted by rsfanforever

Wow! What a gorgeous guitar, just amazing! Love the herringbone, just an awesome looking guitar, now I'm going to have to go find one at a music store and play it! Congratulations and Enjoy!

Herringbone is a feature Martin did not offer on any Hog D-18's that I'm aware of. I love the look. I spoke with Bill at Artisan guitars once and he was of the feeling the Herringbone purfling may allow the top to resonate and vibrate maybe a little more than a top without any top purfling.

I also read about an Interview with Bill Collings who basically said 'everything' affects tone.

I don't know if Herringbone purfling around the border was originally intended to be more than purely ornamental, but it sure looks awesome!

[noledog]

* Congrats bro on that beasty Outlaw! ...I knew you were gonna get it after all our convos ha-ha! NOW the question is, what pickup since your gonna gig with it?

** Are you gonna possibly change tone with a UST? ...I wouldn't

*** Or attach something to the bridge plate? ...not sure I would do that either, maybe.

**** Or a soundhole mag? ...might deter from the aesthetics , but easiest in and out without affecting unplugged tone if you use a light weight model like the Angel or M80. I know you don't like mags much, but I would not want to glue or tape to anything to bridge plate or put a ust under the saddle; keep this limited edition Outlaw organic as possible! ...imho

Enjoy this killer guitar, miss the Collings rosie?

eric

[CASD57]

Originally Posted by Groberts

It is a limited Edition. They made (or are making) just 100 of them. There are several available that I noticed as I did my research.

Love the tone... Does anything match it without the "OutLaw" Name?

[Mrbirdog]

Really special !!! Luv that pristine light top and sounds tremendaMAS!!! Nice playing btw...maybe you can start doing some demo's for a change of pace and give Phillips a vacation ???

[hearsedriver]

That is one nice looking and sounding guitar! Im not normally a mahogany fan but I love that one!

[guitar george]

Congratulations. It's a beauty!

Any idea why they call in an "outlaw"? Tortoise shell pick guard maybe?

[Groberts]

Originally Posted by guitar george

Congratulations. It's a beauty!

Any idea why they call in an "outlaw"? Tortoise shell pick guard maybe?

They call it the Outlaw because its a guitar they never made. A confluence of best of class old school features and some modern build features.It has Martin Golden Era “Authentic” bracing. Its also a a Mahogany guitar with Herringbone Purfling that they never did. It has a lot of Golden Era features (Forward shifted, Hand scalloped X bracing) but also has a modern MLO/PA neck with adjustable truss rod and drop in Bone saddle.

[Groberts]

Originally Posted by noledog

* Congrats bro on that beasty Outlaw! ...I knew you were gonna get it after all our convos ha-ha! NOW the question is, what pickup since your gonna gig with it?

** Are you gonna possibly change tone with a UST? ...I wouldn't

*** Or attach something to the bridge plate? ...not sure I would do that either, maybe.

**** Or a soundhole mag? ...might deter from the aesthetics , but easiest in and out without affecting unplugged tone if you use a light weight model like the Angel or M80. I know you don't like mags much, but I would not want to glue or tape to anything to bridge plate or put a ust under the saddle; keep this limited edition Outlaw organic as possible! ...imho

Enjoy this killer guitar, miss the Collings rosie?

eric

Hi Eric,

No regrets letting the Collings “Rosewood” OM go. It was great, but I learned I am not really a rosewood lover and I have two other OM’s. So it was the logical choice to let go. And I am THRILLED with the Outlaw. It is a wonderful compliment to my Fiddleback flamed mahogany D-18.

I am leaning right now to the K&K PWN for the Outlaw. I agree it doesn’t make sense to put a UST under the saddle. A little tiny bit of glue for the minute little K&K discs doesn’t seem terribly invasive. Then I will see how it works with my Fishman Platinum Pro EQ preamp. But I may revisit the Red-eye preamp since they are known to be magical with the K&K. That said, the best and most comprehensive Preamp is probably the Tonedexter. So I have some experimenting to do. I just don’t want to put a soundhole Mag in the guitar visually and I dont think they are as natural as I want. So we shall see my friend! Thanks for being part of this journey!

[bluetweed]

only way to go electric and not ruin your tone / get a dimarzio Angel and Tone Dexter

http://audiosprockets.com/

[Groberts]

Originally Posted by bluetweed

only way to go electric and not ruin your tone / get a dimarzio Angel and Tone Dexter

http://audiosprockets.com/

“Only?” LOL I respectfully admire the option you mentioned however. I might check it out, but I hate the look of soundhole PU’s. ..especially in a guitar this beautiful. I have heard Eric’s (Noledog) M80 soundhole PU and it works great too. But I still hear some ‘magnetic’ tonal quality on the B and E strings that is just a little Unnatural. I will however check into the Tonedexter. Thanks. :-)

[bluetweed]

I don't mean that, just check out videos of the tone dexter, you will be impressed / glad you love your new guitar

[jjrpilot]

Gary, I hate to be the downer, but the Outlaw you demoed seems to lack in a multitude of areas...........

I'll PM you my address, since I know you won't want it anymore.

JK, I've never been a dreadnaught fan....but YOUR Outlaw sounds like magic!

It's funny how you mentioned you're now leaning towards Mahogany overall, and I find myself leaning that way too. To my ears...your Outlaw has plenty of bass....which soooooooooo smoothly meshes with the mids and trebles. Most Rosewood guitars have that typical "mid-scoop" but that Adi/Hog seems to be so complete tonally.

If you ever let go of that guitar, I think the AGF community will start a riot.....that sounds INCREDIBLE!

Congrats on your new Martin!!!!

[caperrob]

That guitar's tone is pure honey!!!! One of the sweetest sounding I've ever heard. Congrats my man!!!!

Me want one

[jweave69]

Oh my heavens, that's a beautiful sounding guitar!