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Perhaps I am just not a non-discerning player, but I have NEVER specified to a luthier on a custom commission an exact neck profile by dimension. I have expressed a qualitative preference for an oval and not a modified V profile. Features such as nut width, string spacing, fb radius and scale length are defined numerically, but neck profiles are defined qualitatively allowing my luthier to interpret. So far, ALL of my guitar necks are different, but all are comfortable for me.
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Coming from the electric guitar world, I don't find this all unusual. Sure one couldn't match a profile EXACT by hand, but we can come pretty close.
I remember when Eddie Van Halen left Kramer Guitars and got signed with Ernie Ball/Music Man, they actually digitized the playing surface of his Frankenstrat, down to every worn spot, so that every neck would feel as close as possible. In ye olde days, a silicone or other releasable mold could be made for a plaster casting that could be used with a pantograph, i.e. DupliCarver. |
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I think if you aren't comfortable with the neck, you should get one that works better for you. I can feel pretty subtle differences in spacing and depth. They usually aren't make or break for me, but I can see that if something isn't working for you it isn't working. Don't overthink it.
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Well, thanks for the replies and suggestions. I don't want to overthink it but I do appreciate it. I'll sleep on it a few days and maybe even try some low tack tape. Cheers, (edit: Thanks justonwo, LOL I must have been typing while you were writing your post.) |
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Since OP is discussing minute measurements and a desire for accuracy, I thought it only fair to judge the image as if it were 100% dimensionally accurate and proportional. That's OK, right?
So, with that in mind - if the pea were the size of my head, and the mattresses only about as thick as your average comforter, I'm guessing I might feel it too, despite my lack of royal pedigree. Cheers, Martin |
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"here, here's a rasp and some sandpaper, don't hurt yourself"
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It wouldn't cost that much more to make a new neck. You can still reuse the inlays or the fretboard (with the 1/32" ebony wings).
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I think it's the neck thickness and shape that makes it feel thin. Looking at the drawings, you would need to add wood all over. Shimming the fretboard may still not create a good shape. The best option would be to make a new neck with exactly the shape you want. Leave the old neck completely intact (dont butcher inlays etc). That way, the old neck can be put back to restore the guitar to original if in the future you want to sell it.
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Cool thread
This thread is very informative! And right up my alley...
Fortunately I do not need to re neck anything, but I have carved one down myself! It was an inexpensive model newer Taylor and it fit great when I was done. I gave it a 90s profile. I did not refinish, as it was not worth the $, but just oiled it and played it! Going larger in size is an entire other ball of wax! How far away is your builder from you? Maybe take or ship him your fave neck axe. Insure it for BIG BUCKS, and hope for the best? Cheers Paul
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This is the OP's guitar and it's his money. It's not cool to be judgmental of other folks' preferences but since the OP did ask for opinions...
Personally I would never tinker with a guitar just because the neck is a little like this or too much like that. I'd learn how to deal with it. Folks who play casually but yet are extremely picky about specs remind me of guys who talk seriously about racing calipers and light weight wheels only to drive to the local mall at 25 mph. There's nothing wrong with buying what you want with the money that you've earned -- but trying to justify the function can oftentimes be a real stretch. |
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Now that I've slept on it, it seems funny to me that saxophones, violins, pianos, and most classical guitars are very standardized. If you are a 6'2" or a 4' 11" piano player, you just adjust the seat height. Back in the day Martin changed neck shapes/nut widths every few decades. Yet now routinely makes 4 neck sizes at 1 11/16, 1 3/4, 1 13/16, and 1 7/8 and in Mod V, MLO, low oval, PA, etc. Too many choices. |