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Old 01-25-2012, 08:09 AM
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Default Which Gibson would you pick, slope style

I'm contemplating getting a Gibson. Well I am getting a Gibson, but I recall a thread a while back, which I can't locate, explaining the differences between
advanced jumbo, southern jumbo and J-45.

I'm wondering if you had to pick from the 3k and under models of this slope shoulder design, which you would pick and why?

I have my eye on this.
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RSSVVSNH

or this

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RS4CVSGH

There's so many Gibson styles of the slope shoulder it's tough to decide.

Then there is the advanced jumbo.
25-1/2" neck
1-23/32" nut width

So the neck is a little longer. I'm wondering if this would result in a more loose feel with the longer neck or a tighter feel than the others like the Southern Jumbo.
24-3/4" scale
1.725" nut width

1 23/32 = 1.71875 Advanced Jumbo
1.725 Southern Jumbo
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:22 AM
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Well .... what great choice to have.

I think main question is do you prefer the mohogany or rosewood tone ?

Because you have two rosewood and one mahogany option.

I personally prefer mahogany, in particular on a Gibson as that is the tone that most attracts me to these guitars.

I also like a lot short scale, so from your selection this would lead me to the SJ TV.

I definitely recommend the True Vintage line to the standard line of same model as I find the tone to be superior.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:27 AM
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So the neck is a little longer. I'm wondering if this would result in a more loose feel with the longer neck or a tighter feel than the others like the Southern Jumbo.
24-3/4" scale
1.725" nut width

1 23/32 = 1.71875 Advanced Jumbo
1.725 Southern Jumbo
Longer scale = more string tension.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:34 AM
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So I had it backwards.

I'm really liking the look of this.

Wondering if I can get over the rosewood for back and sides vs. Mahogany.

http://www.sweetwater.com/guitargall...tom/s13471029/
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:38 AM
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The Advanced Jumbo is louder, and in my experience, more sensitive. Its basses are deeper and fuller and the trebles are brighter and more shimmering.
The J-45 and Southern Jumbo, having mahogany back and sides, have stronger mids and a mellower overall sound. Essentially, the Southern Jumbo is the same guitar as the J-45 (same woods, same shape, same bracing), only with more bling. If you feel comfortable spending the extra $$$ for fancy pearl inlay and a couple of extra layers of body binding, go for it. Otherwise, a J-45 will do everything a Southern Jumbo will do, and save you a few hundred dollars in the process.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:40 AM
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What do you mean by "get over" the rosewood back and sides? Do you not like rosewood?
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:44 AM
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Not quite right. This is a SJ True Vintage which has much lighter bracing than a standard J-45 and delivers a fuller, more open tone. If you played an SJ-TV and J-45 Standard side to side you would hear a signficant difference in tone.

If its SJ TV vs J-45TV then there should be little difference, but the price is similar, so extra bling comes sort of as a freebie.

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The Advanced Jumbo is louder, and in my experience, more sensitive. Its basses are deeper and fuller and the trebles are brighter and more shimmering.
The J-45 and Southern Jumbo, having mahogany back and sides, have stronger mids and a mellower overall sound. Essentially, the Southern Jumbo is the same guitar as the J-45 (same woods, same shape, same bracing), only with more bling. If you feel comfortable spending the extra $$$ for fancy pearl inlay and a couple of extra layers of body binding, go for it. Otherwise, a J-45 will do everything a Southern Jumbo will do, and save you a few hundred dollars in the process.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:45 AM
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The Advanced Jumbo is louder, and in my experience, more sensitive. Its basses are deeper and fuller and the trebles are brighter and more shimmering.
The J-45 and Southern Jumbo, having mahogany back and sides, have stronger mids and a mellower overall sound. Essentially, the Southern Jumbo is the same guitar as the J-45 (same woods, same shape, same bracing), only with more bling. If you feel comfortable spending the extra $$$ for fancy pearl inlay and a couple of extra layers of body binding, go for it. Otherwise, a J-45 will do everything a Southern Jumbo will do, and save you a few hundred dollars in the process.
Thanks man, that's what I was looking for. I'm all about bling

In my experience, Rosewood tends to be harsh, while mahogany seems warmer to me. But it's a 3k guitar. I'm sure I could get to like either.
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:05 AM
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I would choose either the J-45TV or the SJ-TV, but I'm an absolute sucker for vintage specs and vibe. I used to own an early Bozeman-era '95 J-45 and it was a fine sounding guitar. The finish was not the greatest, but maybe they've worked that out by now.
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:12 AM
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I too, prefer short scale acoustics and love my Gibsons.

Be sure to check out Wildwood Guitars in Colorado, they get the "good stuff" from Montana.
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:26 AM
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Yes, I've had my eyeball on that site for a while too.
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Old 01-25-2012, 12:12 PM
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Checking that site is deadly, living within an hour of the shop is even harder.

Came home with one of the Hummingbird Customs (Adi/Koa) last week.

Good luck with your quest.
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Old 01-25-2012, 01:17 PM
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I'm a fan of the Gibson Advanced Jumbo (AJ) model. I own one, and also have a guitar built by Howard Klepper that was inspired by the AJ, but in black walnut and Carpathian spruce instead of Indian rosewood and Sitka spruce.

I use both guitars a lot.

In my experiences trying out AJ's in retail music stores, they seem to be the most consistently good-sounding acoustic guitars that Gibson makes. Every other AJ I play is so good I want to buy it, whereas the great-sounding J-45's and J-45TV's - while they definitely do exist - seem to be a bit less common.

The AJ is a powerful, versatile and tonally balanced guitar. I recommend it highly.


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Old 01-25-2012, 01:38 PM
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You should give Fuller's Vintage (Houston) a call. They are one of the premier Gibson dealers and have limited edition models built specifically to their specifications all the time. Call and ask about their 1942 and 1943 FVG Southern Jumbos. One of the two has rosewood back and sides, which might be the perfect mix of what you're looking for.

They also carry special models like the J-35 and the Advanced Jumbo.

Check out this video from their shop here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zj49A5oHX8
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Old 01-25-2012, 01:49 PM
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Of course if you like bling, and be popular with the ladies the Southern Jumbo is the answer .. ;-)

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