Just ordered a Yamaha LL36 - Page 3

Deliberate1 · #31 03-12-2022, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by edcmat-l1

PSA there is a LL56 on Reverb, used, in excellent condition, under 4K.

Yep, I saw that one, but opted for the new one at Sweetwater for $200 more. The rep said I was fourth in line, and that would put delivery to me sometime in May. So they do get them it in on a regualr basis, subject, these days, to supply chain issues.
To anyone who signed up on the email notification, as I did a year ago, the only time they will reach out to those folks is if they get one in that is not already spoken for ie: pre-ordered. And that, apparently, is rare. So I gave them card info, but it is not charged until the guitar comes in and you commit to it.
David

Matt McGriff · #32 03-12-2022, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Deliberate1

Yep, I saw that one, but opted for the new one at Sweetwater for $200 more. The rep said I was fourth in line, and that would put delivery to me sometime in May. So they do get them it in on a regualr basis, subject, these days, to supply chain issues.
To anyone who signed up on the email notification, as I did a year ago, the only time they will reach out to those folks is if they get one in that is not already spoken for ie: pre-ordered. And that, apparently, is rare. So I gave them card info, but it is not charged until the guitar comes in and you commit to it.
David

Congrats. I will live vicariously through your NGD as I wait until September. We were told July for the 56. Hopefully they will beat their ETA.

edcmat-l1 · #33 03-12-2022, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Deliberate1

Yep, I saw that one, but opted for the new one at Sweetwater for $200 more. The rep said I was fourth in line, and that would put delivery to me sometime in May. So they do get them it in on a regualr basis, subject, these days, to supply chain issues.
To anyone who signed up on the email notification, as I did a year ago, the only time they will reach out to those folks is if they get one in that is not already spoken for ie: pre-ordered. And that, apparently, is rare. So I gave them card info, but it is not charged until the guitar comes in and you commit to it.
David

Don't blame you there. That's a no brainer.

RP · #34 03-12-2022, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt McGriff

...I’ll respect the pricing discussion rule, but very close to MAP.

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Originally Posted by Dotneck

What price discussion rule do you speak of?

There's no longer any prohibition on price discussions on AGF...

Deliberate1 · #35 03-12-2022, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt McGriff

Congrats. I will live vicariously through your NGD as I wait until September. We were told July for the 56. Hopefully they will beat their ETA.

Have a fun wait. I know I will, though it is considerably shorter than yours. It is a good GAS release for me. A s-l-o-w release. Like that perverse pleasure you get from pulling off a band-aid, one millimeter at a time. Or one day at a time.

I am curious, Matt, whether you considered the smaller bodied LS 36. The only concern I have withthe LL56 is the size, which is 16 5/16" in the lower bout. Like the LS36, the L56 is concert size, with a 14 15/16" lower. All things being equal, I favor smaller, 000 guitars. In fact, I went back to JP Cormier's wonderful video, and sure enough, he is playing the smaller, L56. Amazing richness and depth from a smaller box. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3ZF...el=J.P.Cormier
And this one - sublime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8FY...AmericanGuitar
Regards,
David

Dbone · #36 03-12-2022, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Deliberate1

Have a fun wait. I know I will, though it is considerably shorter than yours. It is a good GAS release for me. A s-l-o-w release. Like that perverse pleasure you get from pulling off a band-aid, one millimeter at a time. Or one day at a time.

I am curious, Matt, whether you considered the smaller bodied LS 36. The only concern I have withthe LL56 is the size, which is 16 5/16" in the lower bout. Like the LS36, the L56 is concert size, with a 14 15/16" lower. All things being equal, I favor smaller, 000 guitars. In fact, I went back to JP Cormier's wonderful video, and sure enough, he is playing the smaller, L56. Amazing richness and depth from a smaller box. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3ZF...el=J.P.Cormier
And this one - sublime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8FY...AmericanGuitar
Regards,
David

Just to be clear, that JP video you posted. That is an LL56 he is playing.

Deliberate1 · #37 03-12-2022, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dbone

Just to be clear, that JP video you posted. That is an LL56 he is playing.

Dbone, I was wondering about that. The video title actually refers to the guitar as an "L56." Perhaps that is just the series designation.
David

Kerbie · #38 03-12-2022, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt McGriff

I’ll respect the pricing discussion rule, but very close to MAP.

Matt, as RP said, that rule went away a long time ago. You're free to discuss price.

Dbone · #39 03-12-2022, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Deliberate1

Dbone, I was wondering about that. The video title actually refers to the guitar as an "L56." Perhaps that is just the series designation.
David

Yeah, I remember when he posted it that it struck me weird he labelled it an L56. In my mind L56 refers to all of them…i.e.: LS/LJ/LL 56.

Definitely misleading.

Matt McGriff · #40 03-12-2022, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerbie

Matt, as RP said, that rule went away a long time ago. You're free to discuss price.

The sales price on the LL56 is $4199 and the dealer cost was in the $3850 range.

Matt McGriff · #41 03-12-2022, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deliberate1

Have a fun wait. I know I will, though it is considerably shorter than yours. It is a good GAS release for me. A s-l-o-w release. Like that perverse pleasure you get from pulling off a band-aid, one millimeter at a time. Or one day at a time.

I am curious, Matt, whether you considered the smaller bodied LS 36. The only concern I have withthe LL56 is the size, which is 16 5/16" in the lower bout. Like the LS36, the L56 is concert size, with a 14 15/16" lower. All things being equal, I favor smaller, 000 guitars. In fact, I went back to JP Cormier's wonderful video, and sure enough, he is playing the smaller, L56. Amazing richness and depth from a smaller box. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3ZF...el=J.P.Cormier
And this one - sublime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8FY...AmericanGuitar
Regards,
David

Definitely want the LL grunt. The review Jarvis from The Guitar Spa really sold me on the tone-specifically at 6:32 onward

https://youtu.be/3ysZLTlxS6k

Dbone · #42 03-13-2022, 08:09 AM

Hadn’t watched some of the JP Cormier videos on these guitars for quite some time. What a talent this guy is. There is nobody showcasing these guitars on YouTube like this guy is. He is no doubt selling a lot of instruments for Yamaha.

Dbone · #43 03-13-2022, 08:13 AM

I have no doubt this would be an absolute beast of a guitar, but I seriously cannot get over what they did on the headstock there….Please tell me that’s a sticker that can be removed?!?!?!

https://reverb.com/item/11953724-yamaha-ll86-custom

edcmat-l1 · #44 03-13-2022, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dbone

I have no doubt this would be an absolute beast of a guitar, but I seriously cannot get over what they did on the headstock there….Please tell me that’s a sticker that can be removed?!?!?!

https://reverb.com/item/11953724-yamaha-ll86-custom

That's gorgeous with the exception of the bumper sticker on the headstock.

Deliberate1 · #45 03-13-2022, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt McGriff

Definitely want the LL grunt. The review Jarvis from The Guitar Spa really sold me on the tone-specifically at 6:32 onward

https://youtu.be/3ysZLTlxS6k

Matt, thanks for that. I have seen several other reviews by this fellow and he does a nice job. I confess that I lost interest in his strummed composition as it went on. But, then at 15:50 he began some fingerstyle, and that, for me, is when the guitar really shined. As it did with his more delicate picking after that segment.

Lovely balance and note separation. Just a very sweet voice. Not, to my ear, "traditional," but surely not "modern" either, in the style of guitars I associate with that description, with strong, three dimensional overtones (Applegate, Bashkin, Sexauer, Heinonen, etc). Just a very lovely, easy to listen to voice. I can see why you were drawn to it. The reviewer did state, in error, that the guitar is short scale at 25", which is incorrect. It is 25 9/16."
Enjoy your wait. Anticipation can be powerful fun.
David