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As for the tied note, I wouldn't worry about it too much. You can drive yourself crazy with this stuff. What I think is happening is, he doesn't really care if the note sustains thru the next measure or not. So I would go one of two ways: leave it as is (not plucked, but sustained thru the next measure). Or, don't put a bass note in the next measure at all. But I wouldn't waste time trying to figure out the exact beat in the middle of the 3/8 measure where it cuts off, and then put a rest there. Like I said, you can make yourself crazy. Like I said, as it is now it looks like a pristine and well-edited classical guitar score. I bet the guys in the band would think it looks great, too...
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And I do feel like the staccatos are crucial. It's very deliberately played that way. As for whether they'd be interested in hearing about it, I'm sure TONS of fans have gotten Metallica tattoos over the decades. They probably wouldn't even give it a second thought. |
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The more I look at this, the more beautiful it looks. I wouldn't mess with it any further. It fully expresses the essence and intent of the music.
And maybe I'm just a geek about this stuff, but I think if I were a tattoo artist, I would be going nuts with ideas of how to do this. Bet you money whoever you show it to is going to be excited. |
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I think getting the music tattooed the way it appears printed on paper would be insipid and dull. But having something tastefully hand written seems more artistic and personable to me. If I could get close to the pictures above, I'd be so happy! |
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SORRY!!! One little error
I'm pretty sure you are a 32nd short in measure 4. It looked all cool and symetrical, until I tried to read it, and then something didn't add up. So I plugged it into Finale, which literally will not let you put the incorrect number of beats in a measure, and I came up a 32nd rest short.
That's the value of the DOT ONLY on a dotted 16th. So I added a dot to the last 16th note in the run, and Finale was happy. Actually, that's even more symetrical, since the first 16th in the run is dotted also. So, if you want it to come out proper, you need to add a 32nd time-value somewhere in that run -- my way or some other. Wish I could figure out how to upload an image of the darned thing. |
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I'm still not sure I understand that measure. I don't know exactly what the dotted rhythm note is for. I understand the staccatos. But the other dot is throwing me off... of course, I don't read music. :/ Last edited by mistertomlinson; 10-27-2017 at 02:51 AM. |
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There should be a dot after the last note in measure 4.
In post 18, bar four ends with the dot after the note. By post 42 that dot has migrated to a staccatto mark below the note. It's a very simple typo. I've not checked the rest. Last edited by stanron; 10-27-2017 at 03:21 AM. |
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So that's the only issue? It was just the dot. I moved it because I thought it was a staccato. A dot after a note extends the duration of the note, right? But I thought that was staccato. God, I'm so confused.
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What about this for the 4th measure? It sounds pretty close. I'm not sure if the timing is 100%. The hammer-ons and pull-offs sound unnatural, but it might be due to it being software rendered.
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The first group of three is fairly obvious. It's the rest and the two beamed 1/8 notes. The second group is more complicated. Without the dotted notes it would be one 1/8 note and two pairs of 1/16 notes. These notes have a second line on the beam. There are two of these. Its when you add in the dots that it becomes more complex. A dot extends the length of a note by half the value of that note. If that note is one of a pair, the following note has to be halved to fit in the same space. So a dotted note is followed by a note with an extra beam. A 1/16 note dotted becomes 1/16 + 1/32, or 3/32. The note it is paired with is reduced from 1/16 to 1/32 with the added beam line. The sum is now 3/32 + 1/32 = 4/32, which is 2/16, which is 1/8. Just to make it more complicated the last third of the second triplet has the short note first and the long note second. The sum is the same but the note values are reversed. Your new version is good but the beaming looks confusing at first sight. I would prefer to see the doubled beam lines not attached to the dotted note. |
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I've just listened to this for the first time and it's cat amongst the pigeons time I'm afraid. First off, it's too slow for 6/8. I'm hearing it as 3/4 and if you want to get the paired bars feel then it would be 6/4. Second, I'm not convinced it's all done on one guitar. If you've seen it done on one guitar then fair enough, just add the three open strings, low E and G and B. I've notated it as a single lead line thusly;
[IMG][/IMG] With all the tied notes I've decided to miss out the slurs for hammer-ons and pull-offs. That could go on tab if tab was added below. |
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As far as the staccato should be thought of, while deliberate it still needs to be played as a pickup note to the phrase and should not be thought of in isolation. Though not exactly the same, the dot should be thought of as something similar to an inflection known as a "luftpause" [pronounced: looft-pauwza] the important difference being that even though separated that note carries with it some forward motion. A true luftpause tends to retard the forward motion a bit. Music has so much to be read between the lines, eh?
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The best we can do is "tacet" - as in 4'33", where the musician is silent, and we listen to everything else that's happening. If there's sounds happening anyway, we may as well incorporate them into the performance. If a tree falls in the forest, and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
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Having listened to the original, it's only the top B (melody) note that's staccato anyway (not the octave below). More important (perhaps), the second guitar doesn't play a B below, it plays the E below - and there is no harmony note under the high C (the previous notes just sustain). I.e. the middle harmony notes are not G-B-B, they're G-E and nothing. Or rather, that's the first time! The second time seems more like as you've written it. There's also a subliminal bottom E bass note under the last staccato A note (held across to bar 5), first time, but not second time. Quote:
The actual timing is more like I showed in post #3. That last A note falls right on the last 8th of the bar, not a 16th before it. So although itneeds a staccato dot, it doesn't need an extending dot. If you do want the extending dot it goes to the side, level with the top of the notehead to as to avoid the ledger line. Quote:
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The only other thing I'd suggest is you level off the slopes of the beams a little. They're too extreme at the moment. Check the print versions shown elsewhere.
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I wasn't going to get involved in the accuracy of the transcription itself, but that 4th measure continued to bug me, so I gave the recording another listen....
And guys, it's JUST AN ORNAMENT. Write it as a two-note grace note before the B. Doesn't even deserve arguing about from a performer's POV. Written as an ornament, the reader would know immediately what to do. NO reader i know could sight read the rhythms you guys are throwing around -- not without a lot of stopping, head scratching, addition and subtraction... Just write it as an ornament!
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