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09-25-2016, 11:47 PM
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Help my Dad how to backing tracks
Howdy,
My Dad wants to start playing more gigs but he's always played in a band. He would like to play along to simplified backing tracks. Removing the instruments he does not want. I'm not totally familiar with all this stuff but to me it sounds like he needs Midi based backing tracks. Now my Dad gets very and easily frustrated with technology. I'm overseas so I can't just go and show him I'll have to talk him through. Whatever system he gets needs to be dead simple. It took him a year to start using his Mac because he would get too frustrated. But he does use it now. From what he has said to me he wants basically the bass and drums some harmonies. Then my uncle will do some rhythm and Dad will do some Rhythm/Lead and vocals. Any help would be great. Thanks. 
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#2
09-26-2016, 08:01 AM
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BackingTrack.com and a laptop will help.
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#3
09-26-2016, 08:22 AM
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You might have him check out the DigiTech Trio pedal. It creates bass and drum parts from a simple chord progression. It's a great practice tool. If you want to keep it free, BackingTracks.com and YouTube (Karaoke) can get you some decent tracks.
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#4
09-26-2016, 02:54 PM
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Help my Dad how to backing tracks
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Thanks. I checked out backing tracks.com I don't think he will want that. Unless I overlooked some features. You tube won't work either because the tracks cannot be altered to play only the parts he wants. He does not want to karaoke. And does not want to play for example rhythm over top a pre recorded rhythm. Or does now want a 10 piece band minus guitar and lead vocals. He wants to mimick being in say a 4-5 piece band. Him and his brother will take the 2 positions of guitar and vocals. That basically leaves a drum track and bass possibly some harmonies and maybe a key instrument for certain songs that cannot be covered on guitar. I also thought of the trio pedal but he needs this for live work. It really has to be so easy for him. He bought the Beat buddy pedal he's had for a while and gets too frustrated trying to have me even walk him through updating the version so he can remove the drum intro. So his pedal sits. But if the trio is much more intuitive, and it could be loaded with a bigger SD card to save and manage enough songs for An evening then maybe that would work well for him. Likely he will find that all too bothersome. He wants to just hit play and go sort of thing. He is a smart man but he's getting older and he does not comprehend how a lot of new technology works. He does not want to hear the whys only the hows. I find it important to know how by understanding the why. Lol I've never used backing tracks so I'm trying to learn so I can offer him some guidance. I really think we have to go with MTF (multi track format) files or midi based backing tracks (but only if they sound natural using the right software?) or if there's a source that allows you to pick the backing song and select only each track you want left on the song that would be great too. I mean at a descent per track price I know this is available but he will not spend the kind of money it takes to have a custom backing track made ($150-$250/track) But I can only find websites that strip just a few things out. On some songs that will be enough but in a lot that will leave way to many instrument parts behind. Thanks all, it seems what he wants; super simple backing tracks. Is not as straight forward as it would first appear. I so hope I'm missing something simple. Seems a cheap source of MTF files and the right software would be perfect if the song libraries are comprehensive enough. He plays a lot of Country and Classic rock. Thanks again. Last edited by Mischief; 09-26-2016 at 03:40 PM.
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#5
09-26-2016, 09:08 PM
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No mess, no fuss, just pay online and download the backing tracks:
http://www.drumandbasstracks.com/tracks/
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#6
09-27-2016, 05:53 AM
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Not sure if this would work for you.......
http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.htm Demos of RealTracks.... http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.realtracks.htm You pick a style appropriate for the music you want to play and enter the chords. I was using it a few years back to create backing tracks. Overview.... https://youtu.be/UJq0mkg7AcA
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#7
09-27-2016, 02:52 PM
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Thanks for this. I've had a long discussion with Dad last night. His biggest concern with buying tracks is most of the songs he does cannot be found in those sites. I told him there are a number of sites. But I know when I was checking on songs I do I could not find them either. The option of the Digitech trio is out. He does not want another pedal like that and he's going to give his beat buddy some more time. I'll pitch him the band in the box idea. My question though is; Say I do 50 old country songs 1940-1960's and 50 songs 1960-1980's and 50 songs 1980's-present. Is there enough variety that even at a fraction of those amounts the songs do not start to sound all alike? I see there are heaps of variety but when I watched the video I only saw 1 pedal steel song and 1 country fiddle. Can that one song be made to sound completely different depending on the chord progression or if you did 3 songs with that all in different progressions would it start to sound the same? I see you can buy a country pack but there's only 12 songs in it. So I'm not sure if that's enough variety if you primarily play 1 genre. Thanks.
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#8
09-27-2016, 03:35 PM
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It's been a few years since I got Band in a Box. I think I had gotten the 'Pro' package which included a good collection of the RealTracks and other add-ons. I don't think there would be too much similarity between the styles in the collection. Link below opens screenshot image of styles to give an idea of content. The package I got has about 260 RealTrack styles of which 116 are country variations and 114 rock variations. There are many more which are based on MIDI instruments which work OK in some cases, but not as good sounding as the RealTrack styles.
There is a learning curve to the program and may take a while to 'build' each song entering the chords and such. Probably would be a good idea to watch some of the tutorials on the site to see if it would be something he'd want to do. Not sure how different this is from what I had bought.... http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.pro.htm https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By...U1EOFVXQngyN0U
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