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What matters to me is that Jim builds fine guitars that I'm very happy to play and collect. If I'm reading this thread correctly, the OP essentially used words to describe the sound of a particular guitar that he wanted Jim to replicate (while Jim will probably tell you that he was aiming more or less for the same sound on every guitar) -- a recipe for disaster IMHO. So in order to replicate the sound of that one guitar, the OP turned to another luthier who will use the Olson voicing (even though Jim himself asserted that he tried to voice them all the same) combined with techniques from Dana Bourgeois (not sure how this will get the OP closer to his end goal). I'm sure this guitar will be fantastic and it looks great so far -- but I also think the expectations at the start were a bit unrealistic. |
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In my mind, the defining characteristic I want is a delayed bloom or swell. The expectations are indeed very high for this one. I admit they are not too realistic, and I was pretty upfront with Drew. He embraced it as very interesting challenge. If Drew is able to get close to what we were trying to build, I think I'm going to be one very happy camper. I can't comment at length at how Drew is voicing this one as I'm trusting him. It looks very Olson-ish in its bracing, and doesn't deviate significantly. I'm sure Drew has done some tapping on bracing heights and adjusted, but we (he) spent a fair amount of time choosing the right sort of top and back for it too. (*Lots* of tapping) Drew felt strongly that the pieces of wood, maximized for their potential, would be the best route to achieve what I asked for.
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Since Jim mentioned he did nothing special on that guitar, there's only a few conclusions that we could entertain: * That guitar with the "delayed bloom" was very special (e.g. "magic" tonewoods) * That guitar wasn't that special but perhaps it had different strings or someone had tinkered with it * That guitar wasn't that special but you have a very fine ear and are very particular about what you want (nothing wrong with that as long as you know yourself well enough) I think the challenge is that nobody really knows what you meant by "delayed bloom" or how it was achieved in the first place since the difference wasn't even intentional. So you're basically asking a builder to go after the sound of a guitar that he has never heard and aim for a characteristic that even the original builder couldn't pinpoint (or guarantee to replicate)... In any case, I simply posted to wish you a happy ending to your current build and look forward to seeing the final photos. It would be safest for you to expect a great guitar rather than a guitar that sounds exactly like your memories of another guitar. |
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Appreciate your wishes here! I know I'm rolling the dice, but I must admit, it's been a lot of fun having a hand in the design process too.
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It would be much less of a gamble if you wanted a Heinonen. I have no doubt you're going to love the guitar Drew is building for you.
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I believe so as well. What I love about Drew is that he likes building a variety of tonal profiles--he builds an Olson SJ, his own OM, and then something in between. I'm feeling pretty good that he'll be able to hit it.
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i've been following this closely. i'm interested in Drew's guitars. you'll need to give us a full review when you get it. when will that be ( around)?
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(One of the sister guitars in the batch already had 2 coats of finish as of 2 days ago so perhaps mine is already there too...) Will definitely do a full review with gratuitous pictures. I'm seeing if I can convince Stevie Coyle to play it during one of his Friday webcasts too.
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Drew thinks he's on track to finish this week or next. Just got another batch of photos.
Here it is with all of the coats of finish on it: Drew then did his sand down of the body post finish to level using 1200 grit: After this he needs the buff out the glossy shine again and on to final assembly!
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Very beautiful, you must be getting pretty excited!
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Thanks Tom, very excited. I am thrilled it's almost done, but now that it's almost done, I do feel a bit sad. I guess that's why some people here commission more than one...!
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Ha, it can get to be a problem (as he looks around the room surveying multiple guitar cases hahaha), but when you get it, my diagnosis is that you will be just fine!
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Classic and classy, it'll be fun to hear your initial impressions as well as your thoughts after 6 months and a year as the guitar breaks in. And I know what you mean about it being fun to have a hand in the design process. I think that's one reason some of us went this way instead of spending time on racks of gear to find "the one." Enjoy!!
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Notwithstanding all of the prior posts, it looks great and I am sure will be a wonderful "Olson-esque", Heinonen SJ guitar.
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