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Old 11-04-2013, 08:57 PM
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:02 PM
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He looks like Jack Nicholson

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Old 11-04-2013, 09:08 PM
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He definitely has some skills but I find his whole act/persona to be pretty kitschy. I saw him perform once and he must've name-dropped Segovia a half dozen times. As for actually training under Segovia, well, that's all a bit murky.

Esteban is to music as Steven Seagal is to martial arts.
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:10 PM
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He lives in Setauket Long Island. Used to be a nice place live.
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:11 PM
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Esteban is to music as Steven Seagal is to martial arts.
Perfect!
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:17 PM
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He sells snake oil and plays faux menco fake jazz swill.
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:21 PM
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Setauket is still a nice place!
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:16 PM
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He sells snake oil and plays faux menco fake jazz swill.
"Faux menco". That's great!
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This place needs a "like" button...

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Old 11-04-2013, 10:26 PM
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And to be fair, his musical taste is subjective.

What is not is the unplayable pieces of crap with strings he swindles hundreds of grandmothers into buying.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:31 PM
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1. I like to listen to him play guitar.

2. My brother-in-law bought one of the Esteban guitar packages, and the quality of the instrument was very poor.

Those are the only two things I know about him first hand, so it's hard to make conclusions. But my assumption is that he is a reasonably strong guitar player that has found a way to make money by selling cheap guitars. So I don't dislike the guy, but I'm not ready to stand up and defend him either . . .
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:32 PM
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mrkpower asked: "Why do you guys not like Esteban??"

Mark, I suspect a great deal of it has to do with the fact that Esteban doesn't need our approval. He's doing just fine doing what he's doing, and doesn't need any of us on these guitar forums to be fans in order to continue enjoying the prominence, name recognition and success that he's achieved.

I'm not saying that the criticisms of Esteban that we've read in this thread are inaccurate or inspired by jealousy; on the contrary, I think they're quite accurate. What I am saying is that they do not matter....

The late, great Chicago newspaperman Mike Royko used to say that the motto of the city of Chicago should be "I Got Mine," and I think it's likely that Esteban has a similar outlook on life.

Whatever valid criticisms of his music, persona and marketing approach any of us may have, he's managed to lift himself out of anonymity and become a household name, something very few guitarists manage to do. So however crass, kitschy and eye-roll-worthy his approach may be, he's clearly doing something right.

I'm sure he's crying all the way to the bank....


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Old 11-04-2013, 10:47 PM
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is this really a question?
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:59 PM
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He definitely has some skills but I find his whole act/persona to be pretty kitschy. I saw him perform once and he must've name-dropped Segovia a half dozen times. As for actually training under Segovia, well, that's all a bit murky.

Esteban is to music as Steven Seagal is to martial arts.
As someone who's studies martial arts my entire life...this isn't a fair comparison...unless of course you're talking cheesiness. Haha...as for a martial artist, Seagal is legit. I read many years ago he had problems filming movies because stunt guys refused to work with him. He had a hard time in the early years controlling his moves, thus why some of those moves where he breaks arms and legs look so real - they were.

Esteban seems like a goof to me...commercializing on young and impressionable guitarists. I see his guitars and program on Craigslist all the time. He found a vulnerable market (or his manager did) and he went for it. Who knows though, I'm sure there's something to be learned from him, as is with everyone.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:29 PM
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People who misrepresent the quality of the crap they're selling should be held accountable. I don't care how good of a player he is. He should not be held in a position of respect.
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