NUAD!!! New Used Amp Day!!!

[imwjl]

It’s splitting hairs stuff some might not even recognize and what’s deep, or dark or low might make more sense if you’ve also checked out or know a Deluxe or Twin.

I had DRRI and the PRRI sitting next to each other for a year and in that context the Princeton was darker. I checked out these Princeton variations next to each other in a nice showroom vs Guitar Center type noise where there was a Deluxe too. I felt they’re all variations of a same theme but a Deluxe has to get really loud to break up.

A good boost pedal is also a way to shape or get the tone you want. If you want a lot of clean Fender tone and some hair on the tone a boost pedal with good EQ options is worth it. A good boost pedal is nicer than I ever thought it would be. I fell for the Mesa that has a lot of tone adjustment and can take you a little beyond boost for some overdrive. Unlike an OD pedal or other boost I tried I can have the bass and treble just like bypass but fatten up single coil or get just a little break up. In retrospect I realized it gets me why some people choose a Deluxe or clean amp and others something that’s quick to distort.
If your tone must come from the amp, not an effect, you can also consider the Mesa Lonestar amps. They are love or hate but in reality sort of multiple amps and preamps in same box.

I’d say if you’re buying new delay gratification and try the two amps and then decide. If it can be in your budget try a Mesa Lonestar that’s like getting multiple amps and preamps in same box. If you find either of these reissue amps for a bargain hurry up and get it.

It’s also worth looking for a non-big box store. At Full Compass and Dave’s I could hear the amps without chaos in the background.

[clintj]

Reduced negative feedback does a couple of things. It smooths the transition from clean to overdrive, with less of a sharp break. Think the tweed Deluxe and Vox AC30 - there's a broad range of edge-of-breakup tones to play with. It also lets breakup start a little sooner.

It also raises the noise floor of the amp slightly. It's only a couple of decibels, but if you're sensitive to it that might sway your decision.

It also makes the amp slightly less flat in frequency response, again by only a couple of decibels, but it's a side effect that exists.

[GCWaters]

Originally Posted by imwjl

It’s splitting hairs stuff some might not even recognize and what’s deep, or dark or low might make more sense if you’ve also checked out or know a Deluxe or Twin.

I had DRRI and the PRRI sitting next to each other for a year and in that context the Princeton was darker. I checked out these Princeton variations next to each other in a nice showroom vs Guitar Center type noise where there was a Deluxe too. I felt they’re all variations of a same theme but a Deluxe has to get really loud to break up.

A good boost pedal is also a way to shape or get the tone you want. If you want a lot of clean Fender tone and some hair on the tone a boost pedal with good EQ options is worth it. A good boost pedal is nicer than I ever thought it would be. I fell for the Mesa that has a lot of tone adjustment and can take you a little beyond boost for some overdrive. Unlike an OD pedal or other boost I tried I can have the bass and treble just like bypass but fatten up single coil or get just a little break up. In retrospect I realized it gets me why some people choose a Deluxe or clean amp and others something that’s quick to distort.
If your tone must come from the amp, not an effect, you can also consider the Mesa Lonestar amps. They are love or hate but in reality sort of multiple amps and preamps in same box.

I’d say if you’re buying new delay gratification and try the two amps and then decide. If it can be in your budget try a Mesa Lonestar that’s like getting multiple amps and preamps in same box. If you find either of these reissue amps for a bargain hurry up and get it.

It’s also worth looking for a non-big box store. At Full Compass and Dave’s I could hear the amps without chaos in the background.

Yeah, definitely planning to play both before I buy, and Dave's is my venue of choice but it's a weekend trip....the Mesa's out of my price range, but thanks for the info--and I'm definitely planning to add a good boost pedal...really intrigued by some of the new Greer pedals....

[Steve DeRosa]

Originally Posted by muscmp

If these were hand wired, they would cost about the same as the newish hand wired Deluxe head that Fender sells for $2500...

That's funny, they don't look newish...

[muscmp]

Originally Posted by Steve DeRosa

That's funny, they don't look newish...

they do until the owner gets the tweed somehow dirty. altho if it were mine, it would never leave the room. you are correct tho, in that tweed is an old type of covering that is still wanted by many.

play music!

[Bob Womack]

If you've been following this thread, you can read my review, HERE.

Bob

[GCWaters]

Originally Posted by Bob Womack

If you've been following this thread, you can read my review, HERE.

Bob

Thanks, Bob--great review, and great audio/video clip!