Gmaj13 to Em13 in Drop D

[amyFB]

Gmaj13 to Em13- unfamiliar chord shapes and interval. So right now that's what I am installing into my fretting hand's muscle memory.

And this walk down:
Em13
C#dim7
Cdim7
G/B
Bbdim7
Gmaj13

The rest of the song is easy. Just D9 inserted when you need to get back home.

If the Stars were mine, melody gardot.

Goosebumps city of a chord progression, to my ears anyhow! Off I go to the woodshed......






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[lkingston]

I started using Drop-D exclusively a few years ago, not for grunge but for jazzy pop fingerstyle. Mundell Lowe has played jazz guitar in Drop-D for years. Johnny Smith also primarily played Drop-D.


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[Wyllys]

Originally Posted by lkingston

Johnny Smith also primarily played Drop-D.

Where did you get this info?

[lkingston]

Originally Posted by Wyllys

Where did you get this info?

Lot's of sources. I'll find some.


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[lkingston]

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!...zz/Ql3WBV4ZaZs

Near the end of this one:
http://www.vintageguitar.com/17127/johnny-smith/

http://www.guitarplayer.com/lessons/...d-d-jazz/13274





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[Wyllys]

Originally Posted by lkingston

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!...zz/Ql3WBV4ZaZs

Near the end of this one:
http://www.vintageguitar.com/17127/johnny-smith/

http://www.guitarplayer.com/lessons/...d-d-jazz/13274
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Thanks for the links!

[lkingston]

I don't know if I would recommend Drop-D for band settings, but when you are playing by yourself, it just opens up all sorts of opportunities for bass lines under your chords. I can reach three inversions anywhere on the neck. I have this extra distance between my lowest and highest notes. It took a while to figure out the voicings, and there are some things that are more difficult, but overall, I am glad I went this direction. One thing that I will do is put a capo up on the second fret and play along with whatever it is I am trying to learn. Then when I've got it, I will take the capo off and voila, I have the arrangement worked out a step lower and in my vocal range!

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[JonPR]

Originally Posted by amyFB

Gmaj13 to Em13- unfamiliar chord shapes and interval. So right now that's what I am installing into my fretting hand's muscle memory.

And this walk down:
Em13
C#dim7
Cdim7
G/B
Bbdim7
Gmaj13

The rest of the song is easy. Just D9 inserted when you need to get back home.

If the Stars were mine, melody gardot.

Goosebumps city of a chord progression, to my ears anyhow! Off I go to the woodshed......






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Are you going to let us in on the shapes you're using?
Specifically the 13ths either end and how they link to the shapes before and after. (The middle 4 seem plain enough.)

[Wyllys]

Originally Posted by lkingston

I don't know if I would recommend Drop-D for band settings, but when you are playing by yourself, it just opens up all sorts of opportunities for bass lines under your chords. I can reach three inversions anywhere on the neck. I have this extra distance between my lowest and highest notes. It took a while to figure out the voicings, and there are some things that are more difficult, but overall, I am glad I went this direction. One thing that I will do is put a capo up on the second fret and play along with whatever it is I am trying to learn. Then when I've got it, I will take the capo off and voila, I have the arrangement worked out a step lower and in my vocal range!

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I play solo finger style diatonic (chord melody) guitar. I occasionally use drop D tuning if it makes sense for the song. I'd estimate I use it perhaps 2% of the time. I suppose I could use it more but haven't found the need.

[lkingston]

I suppose the biggest reason I do it all the time is because I like taking songs down a step to sing them. I have two friends who just tune their guitar down (one a half step, the other a whole). It actually sounds great, but it puts you in a place where if you work with other musicians, you are naming chords a step different than anyone on an instrument that can't be dropped down (pianos, saxaphones, etc). For a while I was going back and forth between tunings, but I really don't have whatever it takes mentally for that. I just practiced until I was comfortable with the new chord shapes. Chords with roots on the fifth string are the same. Chords with roots on the sixth string change. Chords with roots on the fourth string change but become fuller. Leads become a five string affair, but I can live with that for the richer chords and fuller bass parts.

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[amyFB]

Originally Posted by JonPR

Are you going to let us in on the shapes you're using?
Specifically the 13ths either end and how they link to the shapes before and after. (The middle 4 seem plain enough.)

Gmaj13 - 5X4450
Em13 - X77680

C#dim7 - X4535X
Cdim7 - X3424X
G/B - X20033
Bbdim7 - X12023

D9 - X5455X

And a very satisfying drop D version of D13 - 0X4500

[JonPR]

Originally Posted by amyFB

Em13 - X77680

That's A7 Or A7/E if you want to specify the bass note.
Em13 would need a D and B too. And ideally no A. Eg x79789.
Or 020020. (220020 in drop D. 220022 if you want the 9th in there too.)
Including A as the 11th is optional, but likely to confuse the identity of the chord, because of how it forms an alternative acoustic root.

Originally Posted by amyFB

And a very satisfying drop D version of D13 - 0X4500

Why no 004500, to include the 5th?

There's this too: 004557 (putting the 13 more traditionally above the 7th)

[rick-slo]

I love fooling around with jazzy sounding chords. I just did right now this little vamping, partially muted, sequence for example using a chromatic leading tone walk up and a tension release at the end of the cycle. Often when working up something new I am combining a melody line and chord harmony simultaneously from the get go.

[amyFB]

Originally Posted by JonPR

That's A7 Or A7/E if you want to specify the bass note.
Em13 would need a D and B too. And ideally no A. Eg x79789.
Or 020020. (220020 in drop D. 220022 if you want the 9th in there too.)
Including A as the 11th is optional, but likely to confuse the identity of the chord, because of how it forms an alternative acoustic root.
Why no 004500, to include the 5th?

There's this too: 004557 (putting the 13 more traditionally above the 7th)

Thanks for the info JonPR -

i've taken the info from the charts that were in the music book i ordered.
and my theory isn't sufficient to be able to call out proper chord names as you are able to do!

i may have typoed on the D13, becuase what you typed looks like i remember playing it before i left the house this morning.

Once I get these chord shapes fluid under my hands, I'll start looking to add some inversions as the song has several verses and screams for some chordal variety after awhile. (imo).

[JonPR]

Originally Posted by amyFB

Thanks for the info JonPR -

i've taken the info from the charts that were in the music book i ordered.
and my theory isn't sufficient to be able to call out proper chord names as you are able to do!

No criticism intended! It's a great song (I had a listen), and what I said has no bearing on whether the shapes are right or not.